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By Tired of ZOG on 11-28-08
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As it stands, central banks have a monopoly on issuing money; they issue it when they will and to whom they will, and they only allow it to circulate at interest. This is the crux of the problem. Here are our enemy. (owners of the FED RESERVE)
1. Rothchild banks of London and Berlin.

2. Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris.

3. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy.

4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam.

5. Lehman Brothers Bank of New York.

6. Kuhn, Loeb bank of New York.

7. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York, which controls all of the other 11 Federal Rwerve Banks.

8. Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.
Unmistakeably, these are zionist institutions destructive to the USA.
By BankerHate on 11-28-08
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Central bankers take money directly off the press and create credit from thin air. They lend cash and credit at their discretion; and they expect it re-paid (as if they earned it) in the same currency, only in a greater quantity than they or the government ever issue it—which is impossible.

This fraudulent system of lending at interest creates a zero-sum economy where some must lose for others to win. For example, let’s say that $1000 is issued by the only bank in a fledgling nation of five. Each person borrows $200 at interest, and must compete with the others to pay off their loan, plus interest.

Once 4 of them raise enough money to get out of debt, there is not enough money left circulating for the fifth to pay his debt, no matter how hard he tries. This zero-sum result is inevitable in a system based on interest because interest is NEVER issued, it’s only charged.

Interest is not productive. It’s an instrument employed by LAZY, unimaginative investors who want to unload life’s risks on to borrowers, workers, and consumers by exploiting their need for money.

Interest only works in a controlled economy where the money supply is constantly “tightened.” It’s glaringly obvious that no one would pay interest for money they could borrow from the government interest-free - if it was available.

But, it’s not. So, interest acts as a giant vacuum siphoning all the money which the government supposedly issued for productive uses and channels it to inefficient, exploitative ones that bleed borrowers, workers, and consumers, alike and pits everyone against eachother.

For instance, under an interest-based system, the person from our example who remains in debt will garner little sympathy if he is healthy, and suffered no natural disaster. But indeed, he is unable to pay his debt, not through his own fault, but because of a flawed monetary system.

If interest were not charged, he might still fall behind others. But, if it’s because of a natural disaster (Katrina) or illness, the community would gladly extend credit at no interest until the crisis passes.

Or, if the loss was due to his negligence or inefficiency, he would no longer be trusted with loans. And unless he were incapacitated, he would have to work to pay it back, interest-free. That is both fair and it encourages cooperation and social resposibility.

He would not be targeted, as he is now, by moneylenders who don’t care if he never pays anything but interest. That is unfair and facilitates and rewards exploitation.

But, private borrowing at interest is not our only problem. It gets MUCH worse.

A nation that borrows money at interest (by issuing bonds), instead of issuing bills interest-free, suffers the burden of perpetual debts that increase exponentially with time because of interest.

Interest on government bonds has been decimating America’s physical economy and the quality and availability of its public services for decades. In 2005, the US government spent over $380 billion to pay interest on treasury bonds, almost six times the money it spent to fund education! We are kept ignorant so that central bankers and moneylenders can continue to defraud us unchallenged.

On top of all this, because moneylenders “own” all the credit they extend in the economy, they are free to call in those loans at any time, plunging the entire nation into economic depression and foreclosing on all its assets.

The bottomline is that with the same legal authority that our government issues bonds at interest, it can issue interest-free bills. Both are promises to pay. The latter is honest and productive, the former is fraudulent and destructive. The choice should be clear.

So, when someone asks you why it’s so hard to find a job, tell them that it’s not their fault and that the people of this nation and the world are being manipulated and defrauded by those who control the money supply.

Don’t lay back and let them screw us. Let your voice be heard.
By Citizen on 11-28-08
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http://silverbearcafe.com/private/11.08/forgottenwar.html

America has been struggling to throw off the yokes of tyranny placed upon us by central bankers since its birth as a nation.  Now is the time for all of us to join together and remove these ties.  I encourage any person interested in the subject to read and research as much as possible.  There is a profound reason these issues are not taught in schools.  Please read the entire article above. 

“Let me issue and control a nation’s money supply, and I care not who makes its laws.”
(Mayer Amschel Rothschild, Founder of Rothschild Banking Dynasty)

“By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens…There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.” (John Maynard Keynes)

“The rich will strive to establish their dominion and enslave the rest. They always did. They always will… They will have the same effect here as elsewhere, if we do not, by (the power of) government, keep them in their proper spheres.” (Governor Morris of Pennsylvania)

  “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” (Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826)

“I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution - taking from the federal government their power of borrowing.” (Thomas Jefferson, 1798)

 

  “It is not our own citizens only who are to receive the bounty of our government. More than eight millions of the stock of this bank are held by foreigners… is there no danger to our liberty and independence in a bank that in its nature has so little to bind it to our country? ... Controlling our currency, receiving our public moneys, and holding thousands of our citizens in dependence… would be more formidable and dangerous than a military power of the enemy.” (President Andrew Jackson - July 10, 1832)

JOIN END THE FED AT http://WWW.ENDTHEFED.COM
By END THE FED on 11-28-08
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WWW.ENDTHEFED.US

That is the site.  I just found it and signed up.  We all need to. 

More spending of borrowed dollars and dollars we do not have will only cause more printing of the presses and devaluation of the dollars existing in circulation.  This will destroy the dollars we all have in savings. The US dollar will face a currency crisis in the coming years, due to this inflationary action.
www.endthefed.us
By Dave on 11-28-08
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Ron Paul discloses push at G20 for world central bank, no change in Bush (global corporate) policies with Obama in WH.
http:/ /w w w.rus siato day.com/guests/video/1833 (remove spaces as site is black listed
By Citizen on 11-29-08
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Exactly.  Watch the Peter Schiff interview on how it is very likely that the spending habits of Democrats (not saying Republican scum is better) will further hurt the US economy.  Ron Paul was our only chance at reducing the budget and debt as well as restoring sound monetary policy.  Ron Paul also promised to eliminate the Federal Reserve and the very unconstitutional income tax.  We who voted for him can never be held liable nor responsible for the economic destruction that will continue to destroy America for years and years to come. 

You who are laughing and scoffing at that statement, please do not be so naive.  You were the same ones scoffing Schiff and Paul as well as the many others who predicted this entire economic event.  You were the very people swearing that in 2009 we would see a DOW 16,000.  You were the people who believed “the fundamentals”  were strong.  Please spare me your misguided and naive interpretation of economics.  Pardon me if I fail to take your opinion seriously or the weight of your prognostications as if they held value.  You have lost all credibility.  Your opinions hold no weight.  You have lost all validity. 

Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Antal E Fekete, Max Keiser, Catharine Austin Fitts, Joan Veon, Darryl Schoon, Lew Rockwell, Jacob Hornberger, these are the names of people who knew and still know what is and will happen in regards to the US economy.  The rest of you Dorito chewing, football watching, overweight and ignorant Mall waddlers can take your opinions and tell them to those unread and ignorant enough to believe them.  Thanks.
By Citizen on 12-01-08
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Today is the 11th largest percent drop in DOW history!

GREATEST TOP 10 LOSSES BY PERCENT:

1. DATE 10/19/1987 CLOSE 1,738.74 POINT LOSS –508.00 % DROP –22.61
2. 10/28/1929 260.64 –38.33 –12.82
3. 10/29/1929 230.07 –30.57 –11.73
4. 11/6/1929 232.13 –25.55 –9.92
5. 12/18/1899 58.27 –5.57 –8.72
6. 8/12/1932 63.11 –5.79 –8.40
7. 3/14/1907 76.23 –6.89 –8.29
8. 10/26/1987 1,793.93–156.83 –8.04
9. 10/15/2008 8,577.91–733.08 –7.87
10. 7/21/1933 88.71 –7.55 –7.84
11. 12/1/2008 8,149 -680 -7.7

# 11 ON THAT LIST PREVIOUSLY WAS ON 11/20/2008 WHEN THE DOW CLOSED AT 7,552.29. THE POINT DROP WAS –444.99 OR A DROP 5.56%. BLEW THAT OUT OF THE WATER.
By America must make stuff again.. on 12-03-08
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Without manufacturing, we are doomed?..if the world corporations manipulate our politicians to continue actions that fully corrupt the USD what follows?  G20 discussed a central world authority.  Ruled by the Hague is good for America?  Founding fathers didn’t mention that London would again be squeezing our privates.  Buy, sell, trade local whenever possible.  Pay in silver.  If you’re going to scoff, at least offer alternatives to continuing to be beaten up using fed notes.