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By Kalispell Native on 01-17-10 @ 4:36 pm
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http://www.montanaliving.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm;=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications::Article&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=5E071CD8068042A7BE9F8520B4591809&AudID=5FD5ADA1ED3642749115B1A442CC46D1

Glimm 24 miles west of Kalispell.  How can he identify with, let alone truly represent, the residents of HD8?
By Kalispell Native on 01-17-10 @ 6:04 pm
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in the above: Glimm lives 24 miles west…
By mongo on 01-17-10 @ 8:30 pm
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Pam Holmquist? um, ok.
By Alice on 01-18-10 @ 9:18 am
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Pam Holmquist is an excellent choice! An advocate for free enterprise and jobs, long-time business owner and a friend of Evergreen. She gets my vote!
By FlatheadNative on 01-18-10 @ 9:08 pm
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Having Pam on the County Commission will bring better law and order to it. Hopefully, help shape up some of those rapid employees they have.
By FlatheadNative on 01-18-10 @ 9:13 pm
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Have to agree with Kalispell Native on Glimm running in HD 8. Who else will become a “carpet bagger” wanting to represent the district they don’t live in? Granted, state law provides it, but come on? You can’t tell me there aren’t good people to run in the district they actually live in?
By mongo on 01-18-10 @ 10:12 pm
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flatheadnative, what is a “rapid employee?”
By Kalispell Native on 01-18-10 @ 11:02 pm
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When will the rightwingnuts get a lifeguard for their gene pool, however shallow it is?
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 10:41 am
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Let’s start in Massachusettes Kalispell Native.  What a great place to start in the Bay State. YEEEEHAAAA
By Roark on 01-19-10 @ 11:28 am
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The USA has had it with Obama’s socialistic policies and his disrespect for the Constitution. That is why his poll numbers are tanking and why Scott Brown will beat Coakley. Man by nature desires and needs freedom and personal responsibility. The Dem’s have clearly shown that they care for neither.The GOP and Libertarian candidates are going to win big this year for the simple fact that men are not fools to be controlled by elitist fools in government.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 11:37 am
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Roark, let’s not call a victory yet for Brown, but it looks good.  The best thing about it is Massachusettes is known to be the most liberal state in the US.  So even if he comes up short, it’s a huge indication!  GOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BROOWWWWWWN!
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 11:38 am
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Roark, the only reason why I say wait to see is because I am a Minnesota Vikings fan.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 1:30 pm
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Roark & Hammer (& many others) - Sometimes it feels like you guys just cut and paste your canned anti-Obama rant on every board no matter if it is relevant or not.  I’d argue with it every time but I’m starting to notice that it is so partisan that your not ever really saying anything at all.  You rarely ever relate it to the topic, its just the same buzz words over & over but slightly rearranged.  Just to stir you up a bit, I’ll take one from Barney Frank and say “I’m not going to argue with you because it would be like arguing with a kitchen table.”  Of course thats not totally true because I’m definately going to keep arguing with you.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 2:37 pm
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I knew that one would get you.  Tell me MB, what don’t you like about him?  You know he is arguably the biggest advocates in Washington for those Civil Liberties that you are always ranting about.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 4:31 pm
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taz:  Are there people who shouldn’t have civil liberties?

Tell us who those people are, please.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 5:39 pm
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Aren’t the terrorists who killed 3000 people dead?  Ya know, in the planes they used?
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 6:36 pm
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GOOOOOOOOOOO BROWWWWWWWWN!  PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT.  YEEEEEEE HAAAWWWWW
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 6:37 pm
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LIBERALISM IS DYING.  AMERICANS ARE GETTING THEIR COUNTRY BACK.  GOOOOOOOOO   BROWWWWWWNNNNN!.  SHAZAAAAAAAAAM
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 6:38 pm
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IT ALL STARTED OUT AT OUR LOCAL GOVT.  THIS COUNTRY IS AWESOME.  WAY TO BOUNCE BACK AMERICA.  I LOVE THE RED SOX.. GOOOOOOOOO BROWWWWWWWWNNN!
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 6:39 pm
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WHO SAID, DON’T BUY NO UGLY TRUCK.  GOOOOOO BROWWWWWWN!
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 8:20 pm
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Taz - I’ll answer that question after you answer mine.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 8:39 pm
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Sorry Taz - I mixed you up with MB.  I still want to here why he/she doesn’t like Barney Frank.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 8:43 pm
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And why shouldn’t they be provided with Constitutional rights in this country?  Is it because they aren’t white and christian?

To your other point, what special rights?  That’s just a rightwing codephrase for your homophobia.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:07 pm
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Thank you for confirming that you are a major league racist, sexist and homophobe, at a minimumm.

It must be awful to be an angry and powerless white male redneck.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 9:14 pm
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Kalispell Native NEEDS TO BE MONITORED.  HE CAN NOT CONTROL HIMSELF.  PLEASE BEACON STOP HIM FROM BLOGGING.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:15 pm
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Heh.  To paraphrase Shakespeare, ” methinks the man doth protest too much.”
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 9:21 pm
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Web Master, I don’t understand how you can allow Kalispell Native to continue blogging when he continues to name calling and insulting on the Beacon’s blog section.  I can appreciate people losing their cool every once in a while, but Kalispell Native has proven he can not follow Beacon blog rules.  Kalispell Native should be suspended to teach him and others that want to come here and be so juvinile.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:28 pm
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hammer: you’re so cute when you’re angry.

Squashing dissent is SOOOOOO First Amendmenty.  Big, bad, brave (get our country back to it’s Constitutional foundings) patriot that you are.  Too bad that mindset would restore slavery and strike down a woman’s right to vote, amongst other legal advances in this country.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:38 pm
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Wow, what a hissy fit you guys are throwing because KN is saying something you don’t agree with.  I agree with you that KN is engaging in some personal attacks but I have to agree that most of your posts do lead me to believe that your politics are more geared towards anti-certian-people more than what is best for society.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 9:40 pm
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I’m not angry.  I am happy as can be.  Massachusetts just ousted your type out.  HORAY!  Your attitude is what AMericans are tired of.  Your liberlism is on it’s last leg.  Like I said, we’ll see who’s still insulting people on blogs in November.  I am sure it will still be you.  Kalispell Native, I will no longer deal with you any more.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 9:41 pm
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Native,no wonder why people get you confused with Kalispell Native, you are wrong.  KN continues to be insulting and untangible.  If that’ s how you want to be, I say the same to you.  There is no room for this kind of arrogance
By Roark on 01-19-10 @ 9:43 pm
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Scott Brown’s victory is proof positive that statism is not in the hearts of the American people. Americans want to live free and exercise their own personal responsibility NOT have the state dictate their choices. This is a great victory for liberty, and this same result will happen in our State and local elections in November.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 9:45 pm
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Roark, we started in November this past year, getting rid of the arrogance in our local govt.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:45 pm
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awww darn, taz and hammer don’t want to play with me anymore.  ROFLMAO!  To paraphrase a Frank Sinatra (I think) song, “Yooou’ve got me under your skinnnn”
By Roark on 01-19-10 @ 9:53 pm
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I agree hammer, it was a breath of fresh air to finally have Pam Kennedy out of office.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:54 pm
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I was just responding to the your “ban him from this message board” outburst.  It’s not like I’m officially endorsing some blogger who I don’t know.

Again, again, again, your partisan loyalty has got to cool off.  I would not define myself as a liberal but that term is so broad.  Some see liberals as extremist, some think “liberal” just means you are not ultra conservative.  I think everybody, including conservatives, deserve equal treatment on all levels.  Yes, even ACCUSED terrorists deserve the right to trial.  Can you possibly imagine the international backlash that would happen if we wrongfully imprisoned non-citizens without trial and then found out they were innocent?  I would much rather put them through our established prison & legal system and then properly execute them without contraversey.
Again, again, again, you could consider Brown a liberal.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 9:56 pm
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Tester has to be shakin.  How about Harry Reid.  Nancy Pelosi.  The Good Lord works in great ways.  It’s amazing to think that BO has turned so many people off with his hazardness.  This country showed once again how great it can tonight.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 9:58 pm
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I didn’t know God has offically endorsed a political party.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 10:00 pm
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I don’t care if you’re liberal or not.  To back any shape or form of KN is uncalled for.  He is not contributing to any dialogue.  So for you to join in on him in any form, I say the same to you.  How can you say accused terrorists?  This is no common sense.  It is liberalism at it’s finest.  Brown is from Massachusetts, Native what do you expect?  Some times looking at your blogs, you lose your common sense.  Too inconsistant to be on track with.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 10:02 pm
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If you don’t think this Nation is Under God, you need to go back to the drawing board.  TOnight is a perfect storm and the Good Lord has his plan.  No party affiliate required..  YE haw
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 10:04 pm
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Again hammer: pot calling the kettle black.  Maybe you shouldn’t blog while your head is exploding.
By Native on 01-19-10 @ 10:16 pm
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America’s founding documents are very unique in stating a need for seperation of church and state.  Most countries allow for religeon to seep into decision making.  Thank God our founding fathers realized that allowing religeon to influence public policies historically leads to discrimination & surpression.  I know that I can’t spell.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 10:16 pm
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Dear Editor, I can understand positions in blogs especially when it comes to politics.  But I am sure looking at Kalispell Native’s comments he has been warned by you.  We can all go too far at times, but most have respected your warnings.  Kalispell Native continues to insult bloggers bringing no dialogue to the issues.  Once again, I understand people’s passion but there is no room for arrogance.  I would appreciate that you send a strong message to him so this stops..  I don’t believe it was the Beacon’s intention to blog this way and you have control to stop it.  Thanks for your time
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 10:18 pm
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I am not worried about your spelling Native, we are all typing as we think.  Don’t worry about that.
By hammer on 01-19-10 @ 10:21 pm
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I am assuming Native that you don’t think that it was God’s plan tonight.  Taking the most liberal state in the union and bringing in balance into our country.  It is way off balance right now.  I will bet you there is no other country that is great as ours.  Our founding father’s also knew that America had freedom and is a country in GOD WE TRUST.  Don’t fight it native, you seem to get off track when it comes to God’s will.
By Kalispell Native on 01-19-10 @ 10:25 pm
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hammer: please provide documentation that there is a god.

Don’t tell me to look at a bible, which is nothing but a glorified collection of fables.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 7:53 am
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i have come back to say a couple of things. One none of these blogs has anything to do with the canidates registering. It has once again turned into a name calling party bashing tirade of kalispell native. I agree that he needs to be put in his place and not allowed to call people names as he has done to me. but i believe that all of you should try to focus and stay on the topic of the article that you are blogging about. And as for KN do not respond to his tirades and he will go away. By responding you only further his antics. GO Chuck Curry.
By hammer on 01-20-10 @ 7:56 am
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LP, I have a bit of debate with your comment.  I beleive that local campaigns are a huge reflection on the current policies that you saw local politicians back up in 2008 during the presidential election.  Yesterday’s election shows to me how important every election is around the country.  Massachusetts is just an obvious message sent by the people for the people.  I can appreciate the fact your concern we should stay more focussed on the topics.  But what a great win in Massachusetts.
By hammer on 01-20-10 @ 7:58 am
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It all started with Kalispell Mayor campaign and Whitefish City COuncil and New Jersey Gov.  Now let’s move forward with Chuck Curry.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 8:01 am
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I agree that local campaigns are a reflection of the bigger picture and I am not saying that it wasn’t a great win and a wake up call for all incumbents. My focus is not on bashing people and name calling but on the topic of the story in which i am blogging. I think that there were only there comments on the local people that are running. And I also wanted to add my thoughts about KN who should jsut be ignored so that he is not given a forum to name call and bash.
By hammer on 01-20-10 @ 8:03 am
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Point well taken LP.  I look forward to it.  Thanks
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 8:03 am
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I agree to that comment 100%. GO Chuck Curry.I think that he is just what that office and this county need.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 8:06 am
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Hammer,
lets show KN that people can disagree with out resorting to name calling and just being mean. We are all free to express our opinions and to disagree that is what makes this country so great and worth fighting for. But keep it civil. We don’t allow our childrent to call each other names so why should we allow adults to do it? Thanks Hammer for being an adult.
By hammer on 01-20-10 @ 8:08 am
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ubetcha
By Alice on 01-20-10 @ 9:48 am
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Have to say I liked the old look and miss the gold font!

Can’t support Curry at all. The cloud he left under was only do in part with the plane crash, and that was bad enough on its own. A coroner who can’t count bodies? Think of the families of those poor kids who had already made their funeral arrangements. The suffering they must have gone through. My heart goes out to those people. Can you imagine the emotional distress of being told your child is dead, only to have him/her walk out a day later bloody, broken, bruised, and burned?

It’s one thing to make mistakes in life. It’s another thing to make that kind of mistake. Curry’s hoping you’ve all forgotten about the plane crash debaucle. I doubt the families of those kids have forgotten about it, and the people of Flathead County haven’t either.
By kalispelling bee on 01-20-10 @ 11:43 am
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I agree with you Alice. Chuck curry proved himself to be incompetent. I don’t want to pay for incompetence and I have NOT forgotten. I plan to remind everyone I know the disaster and heartache he caused.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 11:49 am
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let us not forget that Jim Dupont was the sheriff at the time and he is the one that actually announced it to the media. And lets not forget all the good that Chuck has done for this valley and ALERT. Show me a record of incompetence by Chuck and I will jump into your court. And as for Meehan let us not forget his incompetence in the whole missing child that was found in the sewer. Why are we not outraged by that act. or the many other acts by the current adiministration. Ask your deputies who they want.They are the ones that asked for the no confidence vote.
By Alice on 01-20-10 @ 12:36 pm
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LP: You’ve forgotten that Curry did indeed announced it to the press. This from the MSNBC web site…Undersheriff Chuck Curry said he searched, but failed to find any sign that anyone survived the crash.

“There were no footprints leaving the site, no piled rocks, no written message — nothing indicating someone had survived or left the area,” Curry said Thursday.

Regarding the few malcontent deputies… these are the same whiners that supported John Weaver and Bruce Parrish and their ill-fated runs for Sheriff. There’s not a Sheriff’s Office, corporation, or Mom and Pop operation in the country that doesn’t have employees that think they can do a better job than the guy who’s running the show.

If the malcontent deputies think they can find a better job in Flathead County, their welcome to look. Perhaps the box stores are hiring security guards these days.

If you’re looking for incompetence regarding Curry…you don’t have to look very far. Ask the Ramige and Hogg families how they felt when they were told their children were dead.
By Maria on 01-20-10 @ 12:50 pm
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My brother-in-law is a deputy and is very pleased with the job Meehan has done. Meehan has always had an open door, and has always been fair. My bro-in-law has 3 kids, a mortgage and a house payment. He’s grateful for his job. He began his career as a deputy while Curry was still there. He often heard about Curry’s monkey business at the front of the office.

I agree with Alice, we have a leader who is above reproach. Those deputies who don’t want to work for the Sheriff’s office are certainly free to go to work for Wal-Mart.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 12:54 pm
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Alice:
i think that you have just called all of the Deputies at the Sheriffs office malcontents. There was 3 vote difference in the vote of no confidence against Meehan. the final tally was 16-13.here is the link to reread the story.
http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/flathead_sheriffs_union_turns_down_no-confidence_vote/11583/
And as I said in a earlier blog why call names. And I can tell you that they are not the ones that voted for Weaver or Parish. when there is no other way to try and get a point across people revert to name calling. Give me a list of the deputies that you consider to be “decent cops” and i will be happy to talk to them about the office. Please people try to be adults and not call people names. as to your own statements
“There were no footprints leaving the site, no piled rocks, no written message — nothing indicating someone had survived or left the area,” Curry said Thursday what would yo have conclueded if there were no prints and no piled rocks or anything to point to any survivors. You must be a expert on plane crashes yourself.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 1:19 pm
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I too have friends that work there and i can tell you that they have had it with the current administrations backdoor policies.  what does your bro-in-law having a mortgage and children have to do with working at the sheriffs office. my friends also have mortgages and children. but they do not agree to the way that Meehan has been handling things that are going on in the office.Ask your bro in law about this:  “There were also concerns regarding a command staff supervisor who was involved in an intimate relationship with a subordinate, who was promoted to an administrative position.“Or the other reason that they did the vote of no confidence"because some union members were upset over how Meehan dealt with a command staff member, who was allegedly found intoxicated in his county vehicle.
these are quoted straight from a article about the vote. Tell me that this is a good work enviroment. I do not think so. I knkow that my friends are worried about the moral in that office since all of this came to light. and these are only 2 examples. Talk to Travis Bruyer about how he was dealt with after he publicaly back Parish in the last election. the majority of deputies feel disengaged from the sheriff and are afrais to speak out for fear of retribution. it has happened all too often with this administration.
By Alice on 01-20-10 @ 1:20 pm
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LP: Please. When I refer to a handful of deputies as malcontents, I am hardly name calling. I am pointing out a committed mind-set.

Am I an expert on plane crashes? No. However, I am associated with a group of former Air Force Pilots (15 in all) who have all stated that based upon their experience, Curry didn’t do his job. It is my understanding it takes 10 hours at 1750 degrees to cremate a body. It is also my understanding there were 2 seatbelts in that plane that indicated people had left.

I will be happy to give you a list of “decent cops” as the Sheriff’s Office is full of them. Feel free to contact me at: alice15@mailinator.com
By Alice on 01-20-10 @ 1:26 pm
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LP:
If you’d like to speak to indiscretions in the office, let’s talk about Chuck Curry and his philandering ways, shall we? If you want to go down this road, you’d better buckle up.
By lp on 01-20-10 @ 1:27 pm
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Meehans botching of the Loic Rogers case did turn up with a dead boy. And he was told for almost 2 days Meehan was told to search the tank and he refused.so that little boy lay there for 2 days. i know deputies that were on the scene telling him to search there. i for one am not willing to put my families lives in the hands of Meehan. I do not think he is looking out for the county and certainly not the deputies.
By Alice on 01-20-10 @ 1:28 pm
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LP:
p.s. what does children, a mortgage and car payment have to do with it , you asked? Simple. It’s called a job and it’s called security. It means looking after one’s family, which should always come first.
By kalispelling bee on 01-20-10 @ 5:49 pm
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lp the deputies I know say that Chuck Curry became the worst kind of bureaucrat before he left his job. He showed up late for work and often vanished in the afternoons so that no one could find him. He complained about his job and his coworkers to anyone who would listen. Alert always came first for him. His disastrous handling of the plane crash showed how little effort he was putting in to his job at the end. Now he wants taxpayers to put him back there. I say no.
By lp on 01-21-10 @ 7:16 am
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Alice
if you are going to pubilicaly say that there are “malcontents”
then please make the list public too. don’t hide your contempt for these deputies say outloud who they are. If i were to have you e-mail them to me then i would just post it here. At least that way the deputies can defend themselves against harsh words.
kalispelling bee:
i rememeber when Curry was the undersheriff and i know that he was there more than Dupont was. i know that he put more effort and time in thatn anyone in Meehans administration does.try to find a dectective or a admin on a Monday or a Friday under Meehan. I know that there is usally very few around so don’t go that way. Ask a deputy what it is like to try and get a dectective to come out on a call at say 10:00 pm. They are always being told to handle it themselves.
By Alice on 01-21-10 @ 10:00 am
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I have already stated publicly there are malcontents in the Sheriff’s Office. They are the same drum beaters who are always unhappy no matter who’s in charge. They were unhappy with Dupont too (the most poplular sheriff in Flathead’s history).These few deputies always feel they can do a better job then the Sheriff.  I will be happy to give you names. Feel free to contact me at the address I already gave you.

I support Meehan because of his integrity and dedication to keeping us and our property safe. On the occasions I’ve called the Sheriff’s Office for assistance, they’ve ALWAYS responded in a timely manner and are very professional. I have the highest regard for our law enforcement officials and the tough decisions they have to make.

This is why we must always strive to maintain the best service in law enforcement. Meehan’s committed to that. Curry has demonstrated (while in office) that when the going gets tough-he flies the coop. He’s been out of the loop for over 6 years and wants to come back now. Sounds like a case of “entitlement” to me.
By kalispelling bee on 01-21-10 @ 11:54 am
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Alright, lp, from this thread and the one about the vote of no confidence, it is apparent that you work for the sheriff’s office. You know much more about the internal workings of the office than you would know about from “friends” who work there. If you are a deputy, you have my admiration and respect. I appreciate the work you do for our community.

Perhaps before demanding that Alice name names, you should identify yourself. Have you run for sheriff and been defeated? How personal are your complaints about the sheriff? If you want others to disclose information, so should you.

Frankly, you will not change the minds of those of us who hold Chuck Curry in low esteem. A good reputation and good character are like hair on a balding man. Once you lose it, there’s no natural way to get it back.

I have no opinion on whether Sheriff Mike Meehan is doing a good job or not. Perhaps another candidate will come along. I do know that I would not vote for Chuck Curry for garbage collector.
By kalgal on 01-22-10 @ 7:07 am
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How about Two Employee’s going to Meehan and demanding another Admin be demoted, OR the one employee was going to run for Sheriff with Jim Duponts blessings?  Meehan did the demotion.  What about the affair with a married administrator and another employee that included sneaking off to motels.  Her husband caught them finally.  Then there is the drunk deputy in a county vehicle, passed out on the street.  As far as Curry’s error on the plane crash, yes it was a mistake, a bad one but he used the evidene at the scene to make it and he wasn’t alone.  I’d trust him with my life anytime.  Meehan and crew are going to all the classes they can to beef up their resume’s.  At taxpayers expense.
By lp on 01-22-10 @ 7:40 am
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kalispelling bee
I do not work for the office never have nor did I run for the office and lose never have. I stated that I have friends there. Why must I disclose my name and where I work. As I stated I have never been employed for the county in any capacity. Alice stated that she had a list of the “malcontents” I would like to see that list and if she is so confident then she should have no probelms posting them here.She would prefer that I e-mail her so that she can have my e-mail and name. That is not going to happen. where my personal complaints come in because of the friends that i have that work there and how they percieve Meehan and how it affects them.The list of items that led to the vote of no confidence has already been discussed.  Morale in that office is not the result of “malcontents”, it is the result of incompetent, dishonest,  inept leadership and an inconsistency in discipline.  Had the supervisor and subordinate who were carrying on the affair or the person caught passed out in their County vehicle not been “friends of Meehan”, they would most likely have been fired.The Deputies do a tremendous job and respond as true professionals regardless of all of this.  The majority, including the non-sworn personnel, those who work in the jail, secretarial positions etc., do not want Meehan as their Sheriff.  Just because they continue to do their jobs with professionalism does not mean Meehan is doing good, it means they have the character that he lacks.  Your mind is obviously made up but hopefully others will read this and take it to heart.
By lp on 01-22-10 @ 12:38 pm
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still no list i see.
By lp on 01-22-10 @ 1:46 pm
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i see that Alice deleted her last post about not needing a sheriff that can’at keep his zipper up. wonder why?
By Alice on 01-22-10 @ 2:25 pm
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Sorry to disappoint but I didn’t delete anything. I stand behind my statement.
By lp on 01-22-10 @ 2:27 pm
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jsut wondering why it isn’t here is all.
By Alice on 01-22-10 @ 2:27 pm
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Btw…I’m happy to share. Simply email me at the above address. If you’re not willing to do that, I can’t help you.
By newhere on 01-22-10 @ 10:35 pm
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Wow.  There are some strong views here!  I have a couple of comments on the Flathead County Sheriff’s race that might not have been mentioned as yet.
  First of all did Mike Meehan actually win the race for Sheriff?  Or did Jim Dupont’s well known support of him really win it?  I think maybe Mr. Dupont won another term, without ever having to hit the pavement.  As someone said here, he was the most popular sheriff in ages!
  Alice, you said and I quote “I support Meehan because of his integrity and dedication to keeping us and our property safe. On the occasions I’ve called the Sheriff’s Office for assistance, they’ve ALWAYS responded in a timely manner and are very professional. I have the highest regard for our law enforcement officials and the tough decisions they have to make.”  I am sure that the times when you have had to call the Sheriff’s office for assistance, the timely and professional manner in which they responded had nothing to do with administration and their tough decisions.  But in fact had everything to do with the employees, dispatchers and deputies that work there!  Including, as Alice called them the “drum beaters!”  Because I believe to do the type of job they all do you have to be very dedicated. And not to the administration but to the public.  Every Deputy I have ever met has been very dedicated.  The job is usually very thankless!  They are not firemen!
  As for the comments on moral, well when you have officers that are paid to uphold the law, it is difficult for them to stay happy about their employers when SOP’s are only followed if you are in the right group or click.  And persons in the wrong click are reprimanded for some pretty petty stuff.
  As for Curry and the plane crash, wow, has anyone actually seen the photo’s or talked with Curry, the flight crew or anyone else that was actually on the scene?  Maybe at some public meeting it should come up and we could all hear his story.  I know the weather was awful that day, the helicopter could only be up there a very short time. 
  It takes a lot for employee’s of the Sheriff’s office to take a vote of no confidence.  16/13, and officers on patrol didn’t get to vote.  That’s pretty close.  I would say if your department is split that close maybe you should take a look at what is going on.  And maybe the pubic should also take a good hard look! 
    And last, Tazmanian,  deputies should not have to “support” their elected official!  They should do their job, expect fair treatment from within and they should have the support of their Sheriff if they have followed the rules of the law, and of course office SOP!  If they are expected to support him then each election we would have a whole new batch of deputies.  Or as it may now, not a lot of them will go public with their intentions about who they support in fear of reprisal.
By mitch on 01-23-10 @ 9:40 am
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Excellent letter “newhere”.  Thanks for posting.  I agree with every word.
By Maria on 01-23-10 @ 9:48 am
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Newhere:

For being “New here” you seem to have a lot of information (mis-information in some respects). If the administration is dedicated to public safety (and Meehan’s administration is) then so go the deputies; it’s a natural progressive mind-set.

I personally knew Rierson, Rhodes, Dupont, and Meehan and have talked extensively to those who were on the scene at the plane crash. I’ve also spoken with no less than 12 local pilots who all agree Curry screwed up.

The very few but very vocal, discontent deputies should be more concerned about preserving their jobs in these difficult times than belly-aching. No one should stay at a job if it’s not a good fit. Meehan and his staff have had more on their plate in their first 4 months than Dupont did in his first 4 years. I believe Meehan has done a good job and my husband, our four grown children and I will be voting for him again.
By kalispelling bee on 01-23-10 @ 5:05 pm
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lp, I don’t know about any of that. We have gone afield of my comment, which is only that I hold Chuck Curry in very low regard and would never vote for him for anything. It seems other people here share my low opinion of him.Frankly, I’m surprised that someone with his reputation would open himself to public scrutiny by running for office. It will all shake out at the ballot box, either way. I do plan to share my opinion of Chuck Curry with my voting friends.
By cody23 on 01-23-10 @ 8:01 pm
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“I spoke to 12 local pilots who all agree Curry screwed up.”  Was it not a local pilot that flew that ill-fated plane up the wrong drainage (god rest his soul).  The opinion of 12 monday morning quarterbacks means nothing to me.  Curry made a mistake and he already has to live with that for the rest of his life.  I’m sure he’s acutely aware of that.  Having said that, lp is correct about the disciplinary problems taking place under Meehan’s watch, as well as the eroding confidence of his subordinates in his leadership ability.  I think much of the politics of this position is a revolving door of good ole boys.  I wouldn’t mind seeing a few other candidates.  Maybe someone that isn’t embedded in the system, but still has the experience to get the job done.
By mitch on 01-24-10 @ 9:39 am
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Yup, Chuck Curry did err, and thankfully there were no more deaths because of his decision.  He is a hero as he made the decision to get the rest of his men off that mountain before the storm set in.  Do some not remember the original story?  The footprints had melted.  There was no trace anyone had left the plane,  but he HAD to get his people off the mountain.  I don’t know Mr Meehan, and wish him well, but not as our sheriff.  It is well know of the chaos he has caused with our officers. 
Chuck has my vote.  Why is the one poster obsessed with Chuck’s bedroom habits?  None of our business as long as he does a good job as our sheriff. 
Go back to NewHere’s post of 1-22.  It says it all, truthfully and with common sense.
By newhere on 01-24-10 @ 9:40 am
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Marie, I am not new to the valley, just to this blog.
You stated, “If the administration is dedicated to public safety (and Meehan’s administration is) then so go the deputies; it’s a natural progressive mind-set.”  I have to disagree.  I think anyone who inters into law enforcement is dedicated to public safety!  So not really sure where you get the natural progressive mind set?! 
Then you say, “The very few but very vocal, discontent deputies should be more concerned about preserving their jobs in these difficult times than belly-aching. No one should stay at a job if it’s not a good fit.”  Should be more concerned about preserving their jobs?  Wow, what is going on down there? You mean when you don’t agree with your boss, at election time you have to worry about your job?  Are they suppose to fit into the “right” click, or fit into the job they were hired to do and are doing so well?!!  There is the dedication!  What, vote and agree with Meehan or don’t have a job?  Does sound like the good ol boy system!
You say the “very few” discontent.  No confidence vote 13/16, seems almost half, a bit more then few.
So you personally knew Rierson, Rhodes, Dupont, and Meehan, so do I, who cares!
And what does it matter if Meehan and his staff have had more on their plate in their first 4 months than Dupont did in his first 4 years?  I think that would be all in one’s own perspective.  Meehan’s first 4 months were probably very difficult, demoting people who ran against him and promoting his own crew.  One of the things Dupont did when he took office also, but Dupont also cut administrative positions, saying things were too top heavy.  Meehan put those positions back in place.  Top heavy? Waste of our money?
That’s for each of us to decide.  I hope to see some public debates between Meehan and Curry before the primary.  Maybe some of this will come out.
By newhere on 01-24-10 @ 9:53 am
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Thanks Mitch for posting the facts of the plane crash.
By Maria on 01-24-10 @ 3:41 pm
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A few bad apples are trying to spoil the whole barrel. If the belly-achers aren’t happy, they’re free to look for work elsewhere, maybe K-Mart is hiring.

Mitch, you might care about Curry’s monkey business, if it were your wife. Married or not, they seem to be fair game.

Meehan has done a good job of keeping the people of Flathead County and their property safe.  Meehan gets our votes.
By mitch on 01-24-10 @ 4:56 pm
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taz, and that’s exactly what I said!  Chuck Curry got his men out of there as there was a bad storm coming in and he was concerned for their safety.  That would be the “judgement in life and death situations” you speak of.  What would you have had him do?  Ignore the warnings and take a chance with his men’s lives?    Obviously in your mind he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.  There seems to be some personal issues behind a couple of these posts.  I could care less about your personal past where you felt “wronged”.  I would think most of us are much to careful with our vote than to squander it on someone with a grudge.
By kalispelling bee on 01-24-10 @ 5:28 pm
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Well, the problem with that mitch is that there was no “bad storm coming in.” The reports said that cloud cover had lifted, which is why the wreckage could be spotted from the air. By the time Curry decided no one survived, there was some weather closing in but even DuPont said afterward, “Had we known what we know now, we would have stayed there.”
By ManChef on 01-24-10 @ 6:51 pm
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Here’s what I know…I wouldn’t trust Chuck Curry with my life, or my wife.
By lp on 01-25-10 @ 8:19 am
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I have to say that I appreciate what “newhere” had to say. very nicely put. and the same goes for mitch. and I would like to know why so many of you are so cnocerned with his personal life as oppsed to his professional life. Are you one that was scorned by him? I do trust Curry with my life and the life of my children and grandchildren. And if we are going to quote the bible let us not forget this one “ye without sin cast the first stone” or how about the saying “those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones” If you have nothing in your past then you can judge others on theirs. I don’‘t want to change your minds I just want both sides presented and fairly. Lets stop the name calling. I agree with “newhere” lets have a clean debate between both canidates.
By kalispelling bee on 01-25-10 @ 12:42 pm
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lp, it’s not about a Christian principle of judging our fellow man. When you run for office, you invite voters’ scrutiny. Is this person honest? Competent? Experienced? Fair? Trustworthy? On what other basis should we vote? That’s what I see is being measured about this candidate.

I have not concerned myself with Chuck Curry’s personal life. My comments have been entirely about his suitability for the job of sheriff. What I see here is the familiar names of people who read the news and comment on the Flathead Beacon site. They didn’t rush onto the Internet just to condemn Chuck Curry. Perhaps they represent the community. Perhaps they don’t. But many have concerns about Chuck Curry’s worthiness for the job. On the other hand, he has friends like you who strongly support him.

Looks like it will be an interesting election.
By lp on 01-25-10 @ 1:03 pm
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It should shape up to be a very interesting campaign. And like newhere said lets have some public debate in issues not personal attacks and name calling and mudslinging. Lets decide if they deserve the job based on merits. I am for one very tired of dirty politics. we teach our children not to call ohter people names let’s practice it ourselves. stick to the facts. lets move on.
By Maria on 01-25-10 @ 3:24 pm
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LP:
Interesting that you’re now being charitable specifically when referencing the Good Book. As long as you have those chapters open, consider this one (as someone already said here, I believe)...“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife”. You have my permission to pass that one along to your candidate, Mr. Curry.
By Silence Dogood on 01-25-10 @ 10:57 pm
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As for retaliation.. Bruce Parish is a prime example of the retaliation Meehan and his admin implement.  When Bruce ran for Sheriff he ran a clean campaign, he did not bad mouth Meehan or Weaver for that matter. Parish participated in his Constitutional Right as an American to run for the Office of Sheriff. The end result, Parish lost the race, and was demoted from Detective Commander down to Patrol Cpl by Meehan.
By Silence Dogood on 01-26-10 @ 9:42 am
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Taz…
This is what is stupid; the idea or belief, that employees of the Sheriff’s Office, must keep their mouth shut during election season…

After all they are taxpayers, and as far as I know they still have the right to voice their opinion on matters of elections, etc…
By newhere on 01-26-10 @ 10:03 am
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Taz, I agree the newly elected Sheriff has the right to choose his staff. State Law says those that are no longer in those positions can not be fired but can go back into patrol. 
But you must admit or at least look at the fact of a no confidence vote of 13/16!  Something must be going on down there.  That is more then a few!
Plus as a tax payer you might want to take a look at the number of command staff.  One of the first things Dupont did when he took office is lower the number of command officers
By FlatheadNative on 01-26-10 @ 11:04 am
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Yep, another carpet bagger filing for another HD seat. This time this carpet bagger, wants to “create jobs” while running in the very district that his company LAID off those “jobs.”

Not only that, he can’t seem to pay his taxes on time. While the rest of us work hard to do so. BTW, it’s public information, see for yourself.

I’m talking about Steven Thompson. Guess his Grandpa just bought a seat in the legislature.
By Bruce Parish on 01-26-10 @ 12:16 pm
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I ran for Sheriff because I believed I was the best person for the job.  I am not ashamed at all to admit that I finished dead last or of how I ran my campaign which was very clean.  Mike Meehan won that election in large part because Jim Dupont said, “Meehan was his guy”.  Dupont was entitled to make that endorsement and believe it or not I still consider Dupont my friend.  Regardless, or the circumstances Mike Meehan was elected Sheriff by the voters of Flathead County and will remain so until voted out of office. 

I still work at the Sheriff’s Office and I am loyal to that Office.  If I disagree with Meehan’s leadership and the way he runs the office that does not make me a “mal content, whiner or bad apple”.  I do not try to disrupt the Sheriff’s Office.  I go to work, do my job to the best of my ability and then go home, because I too have a family and a mortgage payment.  I will not; however, fail to voice my opinion against those things which I feel are wrong or are bad for the overall morale of the office or for the taxpayers of this County. 

I disagreed with Jim Dupont’s decision that Meehan was the best person for that job and I still disagree with that decision.  If I still felt I were the best person for the job, I would be running again, as “ill fated” as that may seem.  In being honest with both myself and the public, I must openly admit that Chuck Curry is a better candidate than I am.  Chuck has more experience than I do and during his 15 years as the Undersheriff much of the progress made toward professionalism in that Office was due to Chuck and his influence.  There were no doubt mistakes made during Jim Dupont’s reign as Sheriff but for the most part it was a tremendous success and the fact that Chuck Curry played a significant role in that success should not be overlooked. 

It is quite obvious that I am supporting Chuck Curry in this election.  Those of you who are supporting Mike Meehan are entitled to do that and as much as I’d like to see a “good clean game”, the comments are looking a lot like the last election.  There are issues put out there, address those issues.  I have seen one addressed and Tazmanian is correct, it was Mike Meehan’s prerogative to replace me and I accepted it.  Meehan’s motivation for that is between Meehan and the voting public.  I want it to be clear that I have no “ill will” toward Mike Meehan, I wish the best for him and his family regardless of what happens.  I do disagree with many of his policies some which affect you the taxpayer’s pocket book and some which adversely affect the morale of the Sheriff’s Office.  I’d also like to state with some humor, if people are going to discuss me, please spell my name right.  It is Parish spelled with one R.  ?
By Maria on 01-26-10 @ 1:21 pm
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Mr. Parish:
Interesting you weighed in on this. I suppose you felt obligated as Curry was your Treasurer when you ran your ill-fated campaign for Sheriff. I had to laugh at your implication that Curry is responsible in large part for Dupont’s success. Nothing could be further from the truth. In order for that to have actually happened, Curry would have had to show up for work. When the going gets tough, Curry takes a powder.

In your effort to come off as squeaky clean and content, you told on yourself sir. Those who don’t stir the pot, don’t have to convince others that they don’t stir the pot. Actions speak louder than words.

Each night while making dinner, I listen to the scanner. As my neighbor is a deputy on patrol, I take an interest in his work. Mr. Parish, the condescending way you talk to the dispatchers over the radio is terrible. Good thing the dispatchers are professionals. For someone who claims to do his job to “the best of my ability” your people skills could sure use some work.
By Bruce Parish on 01-26-10 @ 3:53 pm
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Chuck Curry was indeed my Treasurer, no secret there.  If he had decided to run in the last election I would not have.  If you do not believe that Chuck Curry played a crucial role in Jim Dupont’s success then that is your belief, you are entitled to it.  Having worked there for the last 18 ½ years, I see it very differently and I am entitled to that belief as well. 

I never intended to give you the impression that I was trying to come off as squeaky clean.  If you call raising an objection when I see a problem, “stirring the pot” then I’m guilty as charged.  I have been that way my whole life, even during the 8 years I was in the military.  Believe it or not, this nation was founded by people who voiced their objections.  That started in the 1700s, and I certainly will not apologize for that, as long as what is being said is truthful.  Were it not for that attitude you and I would not have this forum today in which to air our opinions.  I am willing to admit I’m wrong about those objections as soon as someone can give me the facts that prove I am. 

Although it does entertain me, I will not debate with you how you feel about how I talk on the radio.  I must point out though that the dispatchers do not work for the Sheriff’s Office, they work for the Office of Emergency Services, so I’m somewhat at a loss as to what that has to do with the Office of Sheriff.  If they have complaints about me, they have ample opportunity to air them through their chain of command, but I get along quite well with most of the dispatchers, including the ones that work for other agencies. 

If your opinion of me is low, so be it, you are entitled to that.  I am not running for Sheriff, Chuck Curry and Mike Meehan are.  My point was that I’d like to see a “good, clean, game” about the issues.  Sorry if you misunderstood.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-26-10 @ 5:43 pm
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Direct quotes taken from past Daily Interlake Files:
1.  “I couldn’t wish for a better undersheriff,” Dupont said.  He was speaking about Chuck Curry, who had worked with/under and side by side wih Dupont for 14 years before he had retired in 2005.  Meehan took over Curry’s job.
2.Curry was commander of the SWAT team and the dive team and served as deputy coroner. He was instrumental in forming the current 911 system and the driving force in arranging and designing the current in-car computer system and internal computer records system.
3.He stood firmly behind Undersheriff Chuck Curry’s assessment of the scene. Why wouldn’t he? Curry is a seasoned professional, both as a coroner and paramedic, who has rescued more people than we can count. One of the reasons that people were confounded that officials couldn’t tell there were three victims instead of five is Dupont’s sensitivity in releasing grisly details about the melted remains of an airplane fire like none he’s seen before. Dupont protected grieving families but left himself open to criticism by not being blunt; rescuers were literally sifting through ashes from a fire that burned hot enough to consume tooth and bone. “We’ve gone over that thing every which way we can,” said Dupont. More than a week later, he still doesn’t see how there could have been any other conclusion, based on what was left of the plane and its contents.
I have lived in the Valley my whole adult life, I have family and friends that work in law enforcement.  I have heard the good, bad and ugly.  And shame on any of you that blame Curry for the plane accident victims or Meehan for the boy drowning in the septic tank.  Blame God, blame the parents, blame the airplane manufacturers/septic lid manufacturers but quit tossing crap at the men and women who have sworn to serve and protect!  I say bring back Dupont and Curry, throw Bruce Parish in for good measure.  Please bring back Frank Garner too.
By Rawhide on 01-26-10 @ 6:26 pm
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I’ve known both Chuck Curry and Mike Meehan for years and I respect for both of them.  For that reason I have avoided commenting on this election.  But allow me to repeat what another reader has already said, “Shame on any of you that blame Curry for the plane accident victims or Meehan for the boy drowning in the septic tank.”
By Maria on 01-26-10 @ 7:43 pm
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Mr. Parish:
I didn’t misunderstand anything, and thanks for the history lesson, but with your permission, I’d like to stick to the topic at hand.

On the occasions I’ve had to call the dispatch, they answer the phone, “Sheriff’s Office”. They do not say, “Office of Emergency Services”. This would easily lead one to understand that they are a part of the Sheriff’s Office.

Regardless of the splitting of hairs of who the dispatchers actually work for, they deserve your respect. Over the radio, you speak to them them like they are second class citizens. It’s very difficult to respect you because of it. It’s an integrity issue sir.
By mitch on 01-26-10 @ 8:33 pm
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topic at hand?    What difference does it make?  If we call for help does it really matter what they say as long as we realize we’ve reached help?    I’ve always heard respect, and yes, I too listen to the scanner.  You, Maria, are grasping at straws
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-26-10 @ 10:03 pm
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Maria, alot of the officers, sheriff and city and most of the dispatchers in the valley are very good friends, including Mr. Parish.  They work together and play together.  I would dare you to talk badly about Mr. Parish in front of most of them.  I think what you have probably heard was “heat of the moment” conversation.  Remember these people have jobs with pretty high stress levels.  I have heard that sometimes they don’t say please and thank you.  Get over it.
By kalispelling bee on 01-26-10 @ 10:27 pm
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CoffeeJunkie, if you’re a cop, please say so. If you’re not, please don’t try to explain the culture to others.

Mr. Parish, you have my respect. It’s easy to complain about the way things are or talk about how they should be. It takes courage to put yourself out there and try to make a difference. I applaud you for that. Jim DuPont also has my respect. Chuck Curry does not. What I have learned about him has deepened my disrespect for him. I do not think he is fit to hold the office of Flathead County Sheriff. I admire your loyalty to him and I wish you and the other people who work in the office all the best.
By kalispelling bee on 01-26-10 @ 10:35 pm
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mitch, you never responded to my post. No one at the sheriff’s office EVER said the weather was critical when Chuck Curry was at that plane crash or that he had to consider taking “a chance with his men’s lives” Articles and interviews from that time are easy to find through Google. Why are you making that excuse now when the sheriff never did?
By ManChef on 01-27-10 @ 9:34 am
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Every office in the U.S. has it’s share of Baby Hugheys. Sheriff Meehan, thank you for your leadership and thank you for refusing to change the diapers of these cry babies. And to the handful of cry babies…if you’re not happy or you’re ungrateful for the job you have, put your resignation on the desk and get out. There are men and women waiting in line who would love to have the job.
By Maria on 01-27-10 @ 9:49 am
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CoffeeJunkie:
Parish and the dispatchers work for the TAXPAYERS of Flathead County. I wonder how the taxpayers would feel if you told them to “get over it”. The taxpayers deserve better, in fact the best. The reality is, Mr. Parish is tooting the horn for Curry when Parish himself has credibility issues. How can he carry the water for Curry when his own bucket is full of holes?
By mitch on 01-27-10 @ 11:53 am
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Kal. Bee, you said   “mitch, you never responded to my post.”
I didn’t see anything I needed to respond too.  I sent along my post, then you posted…......    Did I miss the link you posted that would have proved your post?  Not up to me to prove the truth/untruth in your post.  In the meantime back up to the post from CoffeeJunkie.  Lots of good information there,  esp #3
By kalispelling bee on 01-27-10 @ 12:19 pm
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Here ya go, Mitch: http://www.missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/article_9cd3de2e-514a-54e1-ba56-95efb5c5bda0.html.

At the time, Sheriff DuPont said they wanted to get the crew out of there before dark after discovering the plane at 3:30 and Chuck Curry’s determination that everyone had died. It’s much more dramatic to create an “Oh my God, life or death, big storm coming, Chuck Curry HAD TO GET HIS MEN OFF THAT MOUNTAIN!” Didn’t happen. All they had was the predictable, navigable element of nightfall to deal with. It’s never wise to try to revise history.
By Alice on 01-27-10 @ 1:11 pm
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CoffeeJunkie-
Clarification here - Meehan did not “take over” Curry’s position as Undersheriff. He was appointed by Jim Dupont.
By mitch on 01-27-10 @ 1:14 pm
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Thanks for the link kalbe, I think you proved my point.  “Monday’s weather was a quickly shifting mix of sun interspersed with brief but intense rain squalls, some of which brought heavy and unpredictable winds.”    This was from your link, kalbe….............and what was your point again?“Sheriff Jim Dupont said Tuesday. “We’ve confirmed the aircraft is the one we’ve been looking for. Now, we’re trying to beat the dark and get those people out of there tonight.”
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-27-10 @ 7:08 pm
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I can not figure out if I am reading the same articles, the same papers or even talking about the same people.
Dupont was sheriff, Curry was undersheriff, all of the quotes I have read are from Dupont stating that HE made the call to pull off the search, because there was No evidence that people could have walked away.  So why is this all laid on Chuck Curry?  He had a boss, right? 
There has been so much gossip passed here in the last few days, talking about several of these men and their private lives.  Are these things documented?  Are they gossip?  Somebody told somebody that somebodies wife was messing around with somebody?  This is juvenile.  I respected Mr. Curry because I know he did alot of good for the sheriff department and the Alert.  Maria,how do you know he “took a powder” or didn’t show up for work?  And yes, I realize that they all work for you and I as taxpaying citizens, but if you are sitting in your kitchen listening to your scanner, you realize there are some high stress situations going on and people, being people get tense and terse.  If you are listening in to what is basically an emergency phone call, you have no business critiquing it!  And Alice, Curry was undersheriff, he retired.  Dupont said, “I couldnt wish for a better undersheriff.”  Meehan replaced Curry as undersheriff.  When Dupont retired and Meehan ran for sheriff, he stated that Meehan was his guy.  I think this shows that maybe he thought they both did a good job?  And KalispellingBee, not a cop but I sure do hang out with a bunch of them.  I guess this all goes back to who will do the best job for our valley.  Tell your people to get out and vote.
By wilma on 01-27-10 @ 7:08 pm
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I would like to make a few comments here.  I have been reading all these blogs and what I am reading is alot of people that have their own opinions of the two canidates which is how it should be, but what I don’t get is all of the name calling and bashing that goes on here. And I notice that for some of you when confronted with facts retaliate with name calling. Not sure why that is other than you can’t back your own words up with facts. The other thing that I notice is that Mr. Parish put himself out there by using his own name in a blog unlike the rest of us and it has done nothing but brought out the mean spirtited remarks. Maria, you stated the Mr. Parish’s bucket was full of holes. Are you calling his integrity into play here? And if you please give us the facts about his integrity, or is it because he ran against Meehan in the last election and put his name here in favor of Curry? Do you know Mr. Parish or ever met him? If not then how can you make judgement about him? Or ar you going by what you were told by someone else who might know him. Facts people. I have noticed some inconsistancies in peoples blogs though. Maria in one blog you wrote that your “bro-in-law” was a deputy and then in another blog you wrote that you “cook dinner and listen to your scanner as your NEIGHBOR is a deputy” which is it? your “bro-in-law” or is it your “neighbor”? and one of the other things that I noticed is that kalispellingbee always wants to know if a person is a deputy and then wants them to say so,  why?
By wilma on 01-27-10 @ 7:09 pm
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From what I am gathering and not just here but from outside sources it isn’t paying for the deputies to publicly disagree with the Meehan administration. I do know that Mr Meehan pulled the contribution list after he won the last election, why? It makes me wonder if it wasn’t so that he would know who didn’t support him, like Mr. Parish. And as to the vote the deputies held, like newhere said what about the deputies that were working at the time of the vote and could not make that meeting. How would they have voted? Not given the chance too though.How many deputies are there right now total? Was there a written ballot or or was it one where they had to to be there so that they could raise their hands. If that is the case I wonder how many didn’t vote because of fear of retaliation. Could someone explain why the supervisor that was having the affair was not fired and why the person they were having an affair with was promoted and why the deputy that was found slumped over the wheel of his county vehicle was not fired or at least removed from their position of authority.  I would like to hear what the canidates have to say from their own mouths. I have been to Chuck Curry’s website, and I see that Curry has contributed most of his adult life to this county one way or the other and he has many acomplishments.  I could not find a website for Meehan, does he have one?  I personally do not care how many women either canidate has known on a personal level. What I do care about is this county and my family and from what I am seeing here, Mr. Meehan’s fans are a bit mean spirited and attack on a personal not professiona level. That makes me wonder if I want a person like that to have the “ultimate law enforcement authority” in my county. And I could really care less how the deputies talk to the dispatchers, as long as I feel safe and I know that they are there to respond if I need them.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-27-10 @ 7:15 pm
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Thank You!!!!
By kalispelling bee on 01-27-10 @ 7:25 pm
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mitch, let’s work on your reading comprehension a little. The plane crashed Monday - weather was quickly shifting, etc. MONDAY. The search was Tuesday. No weather issues reported. Read it again.
By wilma on 01-27-10 @ 7:45 pm
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I must say the more that these people repeat the same line about the plane crash and Curry’s personal life the more I lean towards Curry. Do you just copy and paste the same lines over and over again? I do not care who either canidate know personaly, how many times they have been married or who they date or don’t date. From what I understand Mr. Meehan was married and divorced does that make him unfit to be Sheriff? I feel as if I have stepped back in time and are voting on who will be the class president in Junior High.
By mitch on 01-27-10 @ 8:01 pm
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no weather report???  but how could that be Kalbe?    Where then did you get your info that the flying weather was good?  You’re being silly.  I don’t play your childish games
By kalispelling bee on 01-27-10 @ 9:01 pm
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No, mitch. You’re the one who said there was a BIG STORM coming, life and death. Curry had to get his men off the mountain. As the article I posted shows, there was NO talk of concern about the life-threatening weather while he was there. The only thing on DuPont’s mind was that they take off before dark. I posted my proof. Now where’s yours that Chuck Curry was ” a hero as he made the decision to get the rest of his men off that mountain before the storm set in.” What storm?
By kalispelling bee on 01-27-10 @ 9:51 pm
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But you’re right, mitch. This is silly. You say Chuck Curry had to rush off that mountain to save lives because a storm was coming in. I say the reports at the time didn’t mention any storm. But what we are really disagreeing about is whether or not we support Chuck Curry in his run for sheriff. You do. I don’t. Maybe we’ll pass each other at a polling place while we cancel out each other’s vote. I’ll wave if we do.

I enjoy your posts on this site. We’ll have to just disagree on this topic.
By kalispelling bee on 01-27-10 @ 10:09 pm
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For the record, it seems you misunderstood what I wrote, mitch. I wrote that there were no weather ISSUES reported, not that there were no weather reports.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-27-10 @ 10:49 pm
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Just an FYI, if anybody is interested,there is a Search and Rescue Report available on the horrendous plane accident.  This report definitely answered alot of questions about weather, who, what where and why.  And it was not put together by anybody running for office. Be aware there are a couple graphic pictures.  http://www.flatheadsar.com/0506II/news/092004/index.htm
By mitch on 01-28-10 @ 9:24 am
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Thanks CoffeeJunkie, that says it all!
By Alice on 01-28-10 @ 1:42 pm
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Wilma: Going by your posts, you admit you’re not too concerned with integrity issues. That’s your choice however, it’s certainly a priority with the voters as history in Flathead County elections has shown. I believe it does matter whether or not a candidate is a womanizer without morals or scruples. I believe it does matter how a deputy talks to his co-workers. If a candidate cannot be trusted in his/her personal life, how then can he/she be trusted while in office? Those who occupy public offices are held to a higher standard, which isn’t anything new. These are legitmate questions and concerns that are the rights of the voting public.

Simply going on what you wrote, it would be reasonable for one to assume you had no problem with Bill Clinton’s shenanigans while he was in office. If you support Curry, fine and dandy, but please refrain dismissing legitimate issues of integrity. It is important and it does matter. I support Meehan and believe he’s done a good job of keeping me and my property safe. I will be voting for Meehan.
By wilma on 01-28-10 @ 5:18 pm
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Alice,

I never said I was not concerned with integrity.  I define integrity as the quality of having a sense of honesty and truthfulness.  Are you saying that the two people you have accused of having no integrity are dishonest and untruthful? 



You can judge people however you like.  I just want to hear some facts, at least coffeejunkie directed me to a website that answered all the questions I had about the plane accident.  Enough said on the plane crash, as near as I can tell those of you who want to make that an issue are somewhere way out in left field.  So where are the facts?  You have accused two people of having no integrity, what have they done wrong?  Have they committed crimes? 
In my experience it takes two people to tango.  I do not condone the behavior of Bill Clinton but I’m not quite as quick to judge other people as you are I guess.  History is filled with great people who probably would not fit your definition of good people, yet the world would not be the same without them. President Roosevelt had a lifetime affair with another woman, so should we ignore or dismiss all that he did? Or what about The Kennedy family, John, had several affairs, Bobby did too including the same woman that his brother had an affair with and Ted Kennedy was complacent in the death of a woman. So should we dismiss them and say they had no integrity?And as for Clinton he did those things while on the phone with a head of state in the oval office, you can not compare Curry and Clinton. I can only assume you have lived a saintly life. And if that is the case then kuddos to you.
Tell me where Curry broke the law. Do not attack me, simply answer my question.  Do you have facts?  If so what are they and where are they from?  Mr. Parish seemed pretty open and honest to me.  Aside from the fact that you do not like how he talks to a dispatcher, what has he done wrong?  What are the facts and where are they from? What are the"holes in his bucket”? If you are going to say something like that you had better be able to back it up. Instead you condem and attack anyone who disagrees with you. Until I started reading these blogs my mind was not made up, I think that it is now. I feel that Meehans supporters are just not nice people and since you are big on condeming people for who they support I don’t think that I can support Meehan based on the people who are blogging here.
By wilma on 01-28-10 @ 5:25 pm
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Coffee junkie
Thank you for the link, everyone should check it out. It was sad and the pictures speak for themselves.
By mitch on 01-28-10 @ 5:32 pm
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so it’s okay for you Alice to just sling slanderous remarks out there and we’re expected to believe what you say, or worse yet, consider your jealousy and change our vote?    How dare you question someone else’s integrity when you are the one who spews the vicious disgusting accusations.  Why would anyone be silly enough to waste their vote on gossip? Whether it’s real or imagined, you have a personal issue here….....we don’t care!
By wilma on 01-28-10 @ 5:42 pm
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Thank you Mitch. Well stated.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-28-10 @ 11:04 pm
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Wilma and Mitch….Thank you for looking for answers and NOT believing everything you hear or read.  Alice, show me some kind of documented evidence or proof that any of these men have NO morals or scruples and I will, at the very least, listen to your side of the story.  Until then, I go by what I know.
By kalispelling bee on 01-28-10 @ 11:36 pm
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CoffeeJunkie, Flathead Search and Rescue’s report confirms what I said. Curry miscalculated the remains of two people inside the plane as four. The weather was marginal. There was no urgency to “get his people off the mountain” and no reports of a “big storm” approaching.  Certainly not a “life and death” situation, just Curry wrongly determining the crash was unsurvivable and packing out Mr. Good’s body. To present it now as a great urgency to get off the mountain quickly is simply revisionist.
By Alice on 01-29-10 @ 10:26 am
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Wilma:
One does not have to break the law to lack integrity. The American Dictionary defines “Integrity” as follows:

Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. 

The state of being unimpaired; soundness.

The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.

That being said you stated, ” I define integrity as the quality of having a sense of honesty and truthfulness.” This is your definition Wilma, and by your own definition and the one above, your candidate Curry is already in trouble.

You also stated,  “Are you saying that the two people you have accused of having no integrity are dishonest and untruthful?” Yes, that is exactly what I’m saying. If they were honest and truthful, they would admit to you their efforts in cultivating and fostering discord within the department.

You brought up the issue of Curry breaking the law, I never have.
 
Mitch:
You asked, “How dare you question someone else’s integrity?” I believe the first amendment allows me that privilege.

CoffeeJunkie:
I’m worried about you. Try decaf.
By wilma on 01-29-10 @ 10:36 am
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Mitch
I agree with you. If you are going to slander a person at least back it up with facts. Alice do you or do you not know Mr. Parish personally? Have you met or talked to him? And please give me specifics on his morals and integrity. At least with facts we have something to go on. For all I know you have dealt with him on a legal issue and holds that against him, or are you someone that he works with that may be upset that he ran against Meehan. Either way, if you are going to sling mud then back it up with facts.Then at least Mr. Parish can defend himself. I am really heading towards Curry because at least his supporters here are not mudslinging and namecalling and acting like juveniles.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-29-10 @ 11:10 am
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KalispellingBee we evidently read different reports.  I am sure I read at least 4 references to lightening, wind, nasty weather.  And, no offense to anybody, I think by looking at the burnt fuselage in the pic, you wouldnt be able to tell if there were 2 people or 20.

Alice and Mitch:  Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. There are exceptions to the general protection of speech, however, including the use of untruths to harm others (slander).  And Alice, I think you are right about the decaf…...
By kalispelling bee on 01-29-10 @ 11:31 am
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We’re reading the same report, CoffeeJunkie. It says on the day of the crash, the weather was nasty.  It says on the day that Chuck Curry was there (the next day), the weather was marginal. See the difference? And I totally agree with you that I would not have been able to count victims in that crash.
By wilma on 01-29-10 @ 11:34 am
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Alice,
I am beginning to think that you work at the Sheriff’s Office. You wouldn’t be a dispatcher would you? So tell me how Mr. Parish or Curry have cultivated and fostered discontent in the office. I want facts Alice, not your ramblings or your rumors. Try facts. Name what they have done. And I want facts as to how Mr. Curry has broken the law. Again Alice Facts, not a rumor and not your biased view. If you can’t give facts then stop the slandering. As yet you have offered readers here no proof of anything that you have accused either of these men of.  People who read these deserve to have facts and the people that you slander deserve the chance to defend themselves. Yet you still give no facts to back up your words with. Could it be that you have none? I am glad that I will not be making my mind up based on what you say here, I will wait to get the facts from the canidates themselves. You obviously have issues with these two men.
By kalgal on 01-29-10 @ 11:59 am
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Geez Louise, this is getting pretty nasty.  With your personal criticism of Curry & his personal life, He is single (to my knowledge) and can date who he wants. IF he was involved with the married woman, shame on HER as she took vows.  What about the Married Detetctive Commander who cheated on her husband with a Co-worker who was in a commited relationship. Because they are friends with Meehan, are they excused?  Curry did alot of positive for the dispatch center when he was working with the sheriffs office.  I think things would not be as big of a mess as they are now - with the pending consolidation if Curry was still there. Alot of unhappy dispatchers at alot of agencies.  My goodness…..this is going to be a rough election.
By kalgal on 01-29-10 @ 12:01 pm
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Plane Crash incident.  I very clearly remember that time period.  And I feel Curry and the rest of the team did a good job.  That they made a mistake in believing all had died in the crash, that’s a shame but…...anyone who looks at the photo’s see’s the complete destruction of the aircraft.  If the survivors had stayed at the scene or close nearby, they would’ve been rescued sooner.  I am not criticizing their decision.  They did what they felt was correct.  As did Chuck Curry.  Let’s stop living in the past and live in the present and go towards the future.
By Alice on 01-29-10 @ 1:25 pm
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Sorry to disappoint Wilma, I am not a dispatcher. I wouldn’t have that stressful job for all the tea in the Orient and no amount of money would be a temptation.

Once again, it is you not I, who raised the question of Curry breaking the law. I never suggested any such thing. Read my earlier posts. Perhaps you know something I don’t?

As far as you leaning towards a certain candidate…your feet were firmly planted in the Curry camp when you gave yourself away in your first posting. To imply you are or where undecided before reading these posts is a bit of stretch.

Mitch: Yes, I know Parish and Curry.
By wilma on 01-29-10 @ 3:39 pm
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Once again Alice more ineuendos, not facts. No I had not made up my mind. Now you attack me, and have not answered one single question. You seem to have all this information about what happens at the Sheriffs Office but have not answered any questions about the supervisor that had an affair with a subordinate who was then promoted, or the supervisor that was slumped over the wheel of his county vehicle drunk. Do you approve of this behavior and if not why are you not upset that they still retain those positins under Sheriff Meehan. And please do not tell me that it is different than what you accuse Mr. Curry of doing. It seems to me that Meehan would prefer to sweep those things under the carpet and to me that means by your own definittion that he has no integrity. I quote” Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. 

The state of being unimpaired; soundness.

The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness

I am simply asking if what is written here in the previous blogs are true about this. And if they are not then please tell me different.
By Alice on 01-29-10 @ 4:00 pm
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Wilma:
It’s amusing that you continue to claim you are being attacked when it is you who is doing the attacking. I’ve clearly stated my position and why, yet you keep plowing the same ground over and over again. Do you work in the dept or do you have ties to your candidate’s campaign? You seem to have a lot of information for someone who claims they haven’t yet made up their mind. Just wondering.
p.s. Please say hello to Fred for me!
By wilma on 01-29-10 @ 4:15 pm
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Alice agiain you attack and do not answer any questions. All of the things that I have mentioned have been stated here in these blogs and were in the Daily Interlake and also this paper. As I stated before I do not work there. Do you or do you not agree with how Meehan handled those situtations? A straight answer for once would be appreciated.
By the way, thank you kalgirl for the comments. Could you please elaborate on the “mess at the dispatch center”? I do not know what is going on with that. I know that we are building a new center for them.
By kalgal on 01-29-10 @ 8:36 pm
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Dispatch center - Originally they said all dispatchers would have a job in the new center. They have since said all will not. They are making them all re-apply for the new center. And they keep changing the hiring criteria.  I was told (by more than one dispatcher) the current head of the dispatch center (who is married to a deputy) is appointing her friends as the supervisors.  Don’t know if that part is true but i know morale is very low and they are worried about their future.  All these decisions should’ve been made before now.  Meehan bailed on the dispatcher as soon as he could when he was elected. He wanted nothing to do with the dispatch. He gladly gave up control to OES.
By kalgal on 01-29-10 @ 8:39 pm
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I haven’t seen any articles recently on the status of the new 9-1-1 center. Or what is going on with the consolidation.

HEY FLATHEAD BEACON - how about an upto-date article on all that is going on with consolidation, in particular - personnel issues.
By Silence Dogood on 01-29-10 @ 11:05 pm
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Wilma,

You asked some very important questions with regrads to the supervisor found drunk and slumped over in a county vehicle. According to Montana Code, the deputy should have been fired.

7-32-2107. Tenure for deputy sheriffs—grounds for termination of employment—restrictions on evaluations. (1) A deputy sheriff shall continue in service until relieved of employment in the manner provided in this part and only for one or more of the following specified causes:
    (a) conviction of a felony subsequent to the commencement of employment;
    (b) willful disobedience of an order or orders given by the sheriff;
    (c) drinking intoxicating liquor while in uniform or while on official duty or being intoxicated in a public place while in uniform or while on official duty;
    (d) sleeping while on duty;


....in regards to the illicite affair between the Supervisor and her subordinate…  According to Administrative Rules of Montana she could have her POST Certification Revoked…

http://www.mtrules.org/gateway/ruleno.asp?RN=23.13.702


23.13.702   GROUNDS FOR SANCTION, SUSPENSION, OR REVOCATION OF POST CERTIFICATION

(g) willful violation of the code of ethics set forth in these rules;

(h) other conduct or a pattern of conduct which tends to significantly undermine public confidence in the profession;

(k) acts that are reasonably identified or regarded as so improper or inappropriate that by their nature and in their context are harmful to the agency’s or officer’s reputations.
By wilma on 01-30-10 @ 9:23 am
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Kalgal,
Thank you for the information on the dispatch center. I am curious, shouldn’t the Sheriff be a part of the descions that are being made?
silence dogoog,
Thank you for the information on the state laws. If these things did happen and from what I am hearing and what was in the paper, they did, the supervisor that had the affair should have lost their job as a supervisor but also lost the certifacation to even work in law enforcement, and yet they still retain their position? And as for one that was found drunk in a county vehicle how come he was not arrested and thrown in jail like you or I would have been? What was his punishment? These are things that are not getng answered here so I hope that they can get answered during the campaign by Meehan. I would like to hear in his words the explanation for his decision to retain these individuals. And if those are the state laws, does Meehan assume that his department is above these laws? And is it true that he promoted the subordanate who was having the affair? If this is all true then I am not sure that Meehan has the peoples best interest here. These things do not make me confident in how he runs the office. No wonder there was a vote of no confidence. As Kalgal said this should be a interesting election.
By kalispelling bee on 01-30-10 @ 10:34 am
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Forgive me, wilma, but you seem most disingenuous. What you write belies your assertion that you are undecided. “I am really heading towards Curry because at least his supporters here are not mudslinging and namecalling and acting like juveniles.” Taken to its logical extreme, you’d vote for a KKK member then if you read comments from people who opposed him. You have a whole lot of information on sheriff Meehan, including what he did after the last election. If you oppose him, it’s really ok to say so. I’ve read all the comments here with great interest and have been upfront about my lack of respect for Chuck Curry. On the other hand, Bruce Parish with one R who actually took the risk of running for sheriff and came into this forum using his own name has my respect and I paid attention to what he wrote here. Just be honest, wilma. It’s fine if you support Chuck Curry.Playing undecided and dumb doesn’t wash, though.
By kalgal on 01-30-10 @ 5:31 pm
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Geez, give Wilma a break. 

And….....how about this one?  Did you know that when sheriffs office employee’s get demoted & placed into a new position for a “non-disciplinary action”, they retain the salary they had prior to demotion? Case in point - Bruce Parish has posted.  When Meehan got elected, he demoted Parish back to patrol BUT he is still paid his Detective Commander salary because it was not a disciplinary demotion. So when when Sheriff replaces the Administration he ends up costing the TaxPayers more money. 

I would love to see a list of current employees/ranks/salarys.  I bet we are paying quite a few at salaries above their current rank.

And The Sheriff’s salary is set by the State Legislature and all other personnel get a percentage of the Sheriffs salary.

You should all know where your tax dollars are going and how they are being spent.
By kalgal on 01-30-10 @ 5:42 pm
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It is my understanding that promotions are just at the whim of the Sheriff (under the current system).  No actual process.  What the story of 2 employee’s, Stahlberg & Burns going to Sheriff Meehan and telling him to demote Leib or Stahlberg would run against him this election?  Leib got demoted.  Who got promoted to his place?  Is Leib still pulling the pay from his previous position?

I would love more transparency with the current administration.  It seems like there are alot of behind the scenes deals going on.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-30-10 @ 7:43 pm
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Ouch, KalispellingBee: disingenious and dumb in the same paragraph?  You are not playing nice.
By wilma on 01-30-10 @ 10:04 pm
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kalgal,
Thank you for your comments and the information. I know that all govenrment salaries are public knowledge. I do have a question, I have heard that this current administration received overtime pay for working during the fires of 2007. Now this is a rumor and so I ask if anyone has facts on this to either prove of disprove this information then please post it here so that we will know. I know that anyone who recieves a salary from a government agency is not allowed to take overtime. I think that the people of this county should know these things in order to make a informed decision when they got to vote.
I have been to Curry’s website but I cannot find Meehans, if anyone knows what it is please post it here.
coffeejunkie,
it seems to me that when confronted with facts, maria, alice and spellingbee will resort to name calling and slander. either you can back up what you say with facts or you can’t. my kids use to do the same thig when they were little, i would expect more from adults.
kalispellingbee,
as for your comment about me voting for the KKK, I take extreme offense to that. The people that are commenting in favor of Meehan have given me no facts just vile insults with nothing to back it up. That is what I was trying to say. If you have the facts then post them and stop the name calling. I would say the same thing if people supporting Curry called people names.
By kalgal on 01-31-10 @ 8:15 am
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Tazmanian - you devil - pun intended.  Do I know “too much detailed information”?  Before you ask, I do NOT work for the Sheriff’s Department.  Never have.  I notice you do not dispute the information I have posted. 

As I said, I want the transparency we used to have.  It is my opinion that Jim Dupont/Chuck Curry administration was very open. You are them on TV, giving interviews to the media on a regular basis, keeping the public informed. 

The only time I have seen Meehan in action is during an election year. I suspect we’ll see him popping up in the newspaper soon.

Wilma - I have no idea on the salary issue.

Meehan had a site during his last run for sheriff. Something like, Meehansmyguy     I don’t know if he will have it again this year or not.
By Silence Dogood on 01-31-10 @ 8:46 am
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Taz,

29 deputies cast a vote in regards to the no confidence vote. There are close to 60 deputies. Not all were given the chance to vote, due to various reasons, such as, they were on duty, or at home getting ready for their up and coming shift, or on vacation.
There are more than 40 detention officers who where not asked to participate in the vote, (seperate unions)...

So, with that said, 16 votes in favor of Meehan is hardly, as you say a large amount of support…
By Franklin on 01-31-10 @ 10:01 am
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It took a while, but after completing this entire thread and digging out my dictionaries, I’m compelled to comment.

The definition of a malcontent is, ‘A chronically dis-satisfied person”. The definition of a pot stirrer is, ” A person who finds it necessary to try and create more drama in regards to a situation.” From the content of these posts, it’s obvious to me who the malcontents are. The more they try to deny being malcontents, the more convinced I am they are exactly that.

Further, as a retired law enforcement officer who has known Sheriff Meehan for upwards of 18 years, I can testify he is the one I would want backing me up in a firestorm and he is the one I would want in my foxhole. Is he perfect, no. Will he tell you that himself, yes. Does he get my vote, yes. Character counts my friends.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-31-10 @ 10:26 am
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I oversee almost 100 employees, if almost half thought that I was not doing a good job, I would be very concerned, as would my boss.  I don’t know about the vote of confidence for Mr. Meehan, but the vote should have been available to all.  If not, the numbers do not matter.  In an election, it’s people’s choice to sit on their duffs, not vote and then complain about it later, but with the internal vote in the sheriff’s office, it should have been mandatory for all to vote.
By mitch on 01-31-10 @ 11:13 am
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Yes Franklin,  “Character counts my friends.”  And is in not true we choose like minded people to befriend?

My vote is for Chuck Curry
By kalispelling bee on 01-31-10 @ 11:15 am
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Awww, CoffeeJunkie, come on. I’ll stand by disingenuous. I never said wilma was dumb because I don’t think she is and even if I did, I was raised better than that. I said “playing dumb” as you know.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-31-10 @ 1:25 pm
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Sorry, Kalispelling bee, you put words in my mouth.  I just said that you used both of those words in the same paragraph.  And I actually had to figure out disingenious…dumb, I knew. 
Taz:  what do you mean by “leaking of the vote”?  Was it supposed to be a secret? I do agree that Meehan, while undersheriff did nothing to undermine the office of the sheriff, Jim Dupont was respected by ALOT of people.  I would almost guess more than 55%.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-31-10 @ 2:13 pm
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Taz, this one I know nothing about.  I wonder if since the sheriff’s office is on the taxpayer’s payroll, it would be considered that it should be public knowlege?  I would guess if the United Steel Workers took a vote, the only ones interested would be the members, businesses and families?  The general public wouldn’t know or care.  Do you agree with the numbers mentioned above that 13 people voted against and 16 voted for?
By newhere on 01-31-10 @ 3:22 pm
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Taz, you must not have read the paper prior to Duponts election. There was a no confidence vote taken when Chuck Rhodes was sheriff.  1989 or 1990 I believe. Jim Dupont was the president of the union at that time and initiated the vote.  Looks like even Jim Dupont thought what the employees of the Sheriff’s Office thought of a the administrations performance was important!
  At that time there was only one union that included all sworn and non sworn employees.
This vote was just the sworn employees.  Approval rating 55%, that is only 16 sworn deputies.  Someone mentioned the detention offices.  Wonder what there vote would be?
By kalgal on 01-31-10 @ 3:51 pm
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The needle is apparently stuck in the grove. I keep hearing the same words over and over.  Someone want to the the record player a nudge?
By kalgal on 01-31-10 @ 3:54 pm
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And I wonder what the dispatchers would vote?
By kalispelling bee on 01-31-10 @ 4:30 pm
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By kalgal on 01-31-10

The needle is apparently stuck in the grove.

I thought I smelled oranges.
By wilma on 01-31-10 @ 5:24 pm
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Hey newhere,
let me get this straight, the most popular Sheriff in recent history who probably had a approval rating of “90”% was, in Alice, maria and tazmanias words “a malcontent whiner” who should have gone to work someplace else because he disagreed with the way that Sheriff Rhodes was running the office? Very interesting. And just one other thing, the Sheriff is an elected official and if the people that work under him are dissatisfied then I think that the public has a right to know this. That is the difference between the deputies union and any other union. They all answer to us, the public not stock holders and I for one would like to know these things when deciding who should be the Sheriff as that person is the ultimate law enforcement in the county. It should make a difference to the taxpayers of this county.
By CoffeeJunkie on 01-31-10 @ 5:57 pm
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i don’t work there, but lots of friends in law enforcement all over the valley.
By wilma on 01-31-10 @ 6:00 pm
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Taz,
I don’t know anyone who works there and I don’t work there I was simply responding to what newhere wrote. Nothing in my comments even suggest that I do. I can’t speak for newhere but I am getting this information from the posts here, read back through them and you will see that.
By kalispelling bee on 01-31-10 @ 10:23 pm
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Sorry wilma, but you forfeited your stance of impartial, shucks-I-just-don’t-know-what-to-think act early on when you posted about Meehan pulling the contribution records from the last election. “I am getting this information from the posts here, read back through them and you will see that.” No. Actually, you were the first person to bring up the campaign contributions. As I said before, if you have an ax to grind against Meehan, go for it. You really need to drop the whole dazed and confused act. You lose all credibility when your earlier posts prove otherwise.
By mitch on 02-01-10 @ 9:12 am
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It’s interesting to me why some are so concerned with whether or not there is anyone working for law enforcement?  Why is this?    Maybe if there is, we shall assume they know exactly of that which they speak.    If you’ve come up with some little theory on your own, they would KNOW you manufactured this.  Stick to the truth folks. 

Chuck still has my vote.
By wilma on 02-01-10 @ 3:21 pm
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Thanks for the post mitch. Just so you know what I haven’t learned here I have found out on my own. I do not post anything here that I can’t back up. Everything I have stated is fact and public knowledge. Unlike some people I like to make a informed decision so I check things out. I think that I am done responding to any of you people that will not back anything you accuse people of with facts you just choose to name call. And I realized today that by responding to that I am perpetuating the outlandish accusations that are made here by people that do not have a argument or a fact to back anythign up. You people can go ahead and continue to name call and slander but I will not participate in this forum any longer. I am tired of my character being attacked for asking questions and making statements.
I will make my decision on who to vote for based on what the canidates have to say and not on what the illinformed here have to say.
Thank you Mitch, kalgal and newhere for trying to bring facts to the front you have given me alot to think about. To the rest of you, I will see you at polls.
By Silence Dogood on 02-01-10 @ 5:23 pm
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Wilma,
If you paid any attention to the last sheriff’s election then you should have known that some of Meehans’ supporters would be on the attack. They attacked Parish in regards to his health, and they attacked Weaver in regards to an unfounded assault. These are only two examples.  Meehan’s campaign manager was responsible for some of the attacks and rumors aimed at Weaver…
By CoffeeJunkie on 02-02-10 @ 2:01 pm
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Wilma, I hate to see you go….Nice to have somebody that is unbiased and looking for a bit of truth amidst a whole lot of garbage.  As somebody pretty smart said recently, a lot of these people keep up with the gibberish, because they want their post to be the LAST WORD.  However ill informed it may be.
By Franklin on 02-02-10 @ 3:45 pm
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As a retired law enforcement officer, I’m amazed at the level of whine from some of you deputies. When I was on the force, I was d**mn grateful for the job I had. It paid my mortgage and supported my wife and kids. In this day and age, perhaps you should be a little more grateful you’ve got a good job. Many of you have take home vehicles and good benefits. Try getting that at Wal-Mart or K-Mart or anywhere else for that matter.

If you are perpetually dis-satisfied (and it sounds as if you are, regardless of who’s Sheriff), either throw your hat into the ring and run for the office, put your resignation on the Sheriff’s desk, or simply do the job you were hired to do and go about the business of protecting the public you serve. Your never-ending blame game, cry baby, pity party is growing most tiresome.
By myopinion on 02-02-10 @ 10:11 pm
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I lost total respect for Mike Meehan when I read he did not tell the family their little boy was found dead in the septic tank.  Instead he chose to tell the media so the family had to hear about what happen from the media.

“Technically, we have gotten no feedback from authorities,” since Loic’s body was found, said family spokeswoman Bobbie Anderson. She is James’ sister. “We heard the cause of death from the press, not from [Flathead County Sheriff Mike] Meehan.”
See this link for the article.  http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_d37e2cc0-0b3c-5dfe-887d-562483001b88.html
By kalgal on 02-03-10 @ 11:39 am
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Noticed an article today in Interlake about dispatch center.  I thought that was supposed to be open in January? They didn’t say anything about the way they are going to staff it. I did see it said 29 dispatchers. 

Where I am really confused, they talk about a mobile backup center.  In the Beacon the other day, wasn’t there an article about Whitefish Police building a back up center for the 9-1-1 center?  And I thought that kalispell PD had a new mobile dispatch center paid for with federal grant money just sitting in storage?  Maybe the Sheriff’s office does too?  Sounds like they are duplicating just to spend more money.
By Silence Dogood on 04-25-10 @ 12:39 pm
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Apparently more employees with the Sheriff’s Office have no confidence with the way the Sheriff manages the Office. 74% of the deputies voted no confidence, and 80% of the non-sworn voted no confidence.

http://www.kcfw.com/pages/6880528.php?pid=&commentId;=

http://www.flatheaddeputies.com/media-release.html
By BlueLightSpecial on 04-25-10 @ 7:03 pm
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Good thing the Sheriff works for the taxpayers and not the crybaby deputies (the 2nd highest paid deputies in the state of Montana).
By 2ifbysea on 04-25-10 @ 7:07 pm
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Excellent point, BLS. The Sheriff has NEVER worked for the deputies in the history of Flathead County. He works for the taxpayer and the interests of the taxpayer trumps a handful of whiny bellyachers that want a raise.
By Kalispell Native on 04-25-10 @ 8:35 pm
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Cmon tazman:  Think big.  Outlaw unions altogether.  And all the workplace safety, fair treatment, fair pay, etc that unionization has created for you and others in the workplace.  Let’s all be dead scabs like the coalminers that worked for Massey in West Virginia.

Pathetic oversimplifying kneejerk solutions from rightwingnuts.
 
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