Montana may well be one of the last vestiges of resistance to the Obama administration continuing Clinton/Bush progress for destruction of the Bill of Rights and a one world government nightmare control system.  GPSing of everyone’s front door, ongoing trillions stream to persons in the shadows, hate crime laws to shut up our ministers, gun treaties to snag our pea shooters.  We just had Jane Harmon exposed running interference over prosecuting two Israel spies..no one prosecuted??  DHS gets away calling gun owners terrorists.  What’s going on in our attorney generals office..wtf is going on when all this criminality goes on and no one is caged???  If I were a rich guy I’d be putting together a legal team.

Alaska has already passed allot of these “Independent Bills.“The word up here in the street is that AK will soon be its own nation.Don’t go claiming MT The last vestige to the Obama resistance.Cause AK is a step ahead.I am Proud of what MT is Doing.But Even here,we all have to wonder are all these so called independent bills from the heart of our state governments?Or are they simply politically motivated smokescreens to get the same ol politicians re-elected?

@ALASKA:  Very good points.  As a Montanan, I feel strongly that we have not done nearly enough to put the Fed on notice.  Having a Democratic governor doesn’t help matters, despite some of his “inclinations”.  Montana is too dependent on the Fed for handouts to do much of anything meaningful…not to mention the bevy of crooked politicians (and other notables) that we have here.

@JB Well Alaska refused about a 3rd of the stupidous money.But if they were really sincere about “Being Independent”.Should not they REFUSE it ALL?This is why I believe that all this so called Patriotic crap coming from all our state GOVs is BS.

Sounds like Alaska posing as Littlehawk. Same moronic jibberish and use of caps (yelling) and of course the usual poor grammar.

Looks like LH is not falling into your immature name calling.If you do not have anything usefull or informative info,than why are you here.You must need attention?I dont know what your deal is.Good day sir.

I use capital letters too “EMPATHISE” words or points.Call it what you may.I DONT CARE!

And if you dont like my Phony AK.Maybe you could appreciate my real AK better…HaHa

One more thing.Don’t you mean littlehawk posing as ALASKA?Mr.grammaticaly correct!!!

alaska is the most socialist state in the country.

They actually tax the corporations and then send a check to every single person in the state - whether they are working or not!

Alaska is a Welfare state!

Alaska receives more money from the federal gov than they pay in - so in addition to being a socialist state they are also a welfare state!

Quit being hypocrites and send ALL the money alaska gets from the feds - or admit Alaska is a socialist-welfare state.

Exactly what all the rightwingers whine and cry about all the time - oh but it’s great for a place like Alaska!

hypocrisy   n., pl. -sies.

  1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
  2. An act or instance of such falsenessy:

pretty much says it all:

send all the money alaska receives from the fed gov back or accept the accurate moniker as a welfare/socialist state!

Hey Woody,I have told you time and again that “THE OIL"Belongs too Alaskans.Big Oil signed a agreement that gives all Alaskans a percentage of the return profits on all Big oil profits.There is nothing commy about that.Big corps. agreed to this .Get it?..Documentations and everything.Please do more research before you start calling a place socialist.You commy you.I get the quaint feeling that you are just p’d off at the world because your state where you are from did not have the sense too regulate big corporations and come up with a solution as wise as Alaskas.Good day sir!

LH do you realize one of the staples to the republican is less regulation.  You are saying it is sensible to regulate big corporations.  While I agree with you on that particular point, it is generally something republicans fight the democrats on.  Republicans are for less regulation, that is why we are now in this ridiculous economic mess.  So you are absolutely correct in calling for more regulation.  In addition, Alaksa is not nor can it secede.  Do a little bit of research and you should be able to find out that the civil war settled this little matter of secession and set the precedent.  If you actually believe that Alaska will soon be its own nation you are a more laughable charachter than originally thought.

Sorry I didnt proof that comment and I should have…the errors are obvious.

I realise that sir.But what you dont seem too get is that the companies signed an agreement with the state of Alaska.What is wrong with a State that forces Big corps too benefit “The People”?Come on zoo.We are not talking about the loco espresso shops here!

LH I wasn’t referring to the oil money the people of Alaska get.  You were in that conversation with someone else.  I was just pointing out that you are for more regulation, generally an issue democrats fight for.  And, I wanted to point out that it will not be possible for Alaska to secede.  Don’t believe everything Todd Palin tells you.

I said that there are rumors in the streets and cafes that Alaska will become its own nation.I did not say that it will happen.But if the locals are whispering this there is a good possibility that it could happen….

Sir, please do some research on the topic of secession.  Secession was an issue settled via the civil war.  You have heard of this little war we had right here in America haven’t you?  Apparently the good folks on the streets and cafes of Alaska have not.  Any way haven’t been around for a week or so and wanted to see what was happening in the bizarro world that is the Flathead Beacon comment sections.  One more thing, could you explain to me the process a state would go through to secede?  Can you also please explain what the response would be from America if a state seceded.

REEEEMEEEMMMBERRR!The only thing that you have too fear is…...Fear itself!Does that explain any thing?!?!?!Or do i haft too spell it out for you like I do too most of the unimformed?

ZooTown024…Article IV of the United States Constitution provides for the creation of new states of the Union, requiring that any such creation be approved by the legislature of the affected state(s), as well as the United States Congress.

Since the formation of the current Constitution, only two states have technically seceded from another existing state: Maine and West Virginia. In the latter case, West Virginia formed itself as the legitimate government of Virginia within the Union, then essentially gave itself permission to leave Virginia. West Virginia was then admitted by act of President Abraham Lincoln, not by consent of the federal Congress, as required by Article IV

So I guess you can’t explain to me how secession would take place, what the blow back from the federal government would be, what the civil war decided and the outcome of Texas V White?  Shoot, I was hoping you, being a well informed, thirsty for knowledge intellect could explain it to me, an uninformed ignoramous.  Please school me LH, please, help me see the light (sarcasm, do you get it?)  Well I see this is still bizarro land and littlehawk is clearly the leader.

Cowgirl too the rescue!!!

The Alaskan Independence Party is a political party agitating for a repeat of the 1959 referendum admitting Alaska to the United States. Despite the successful gathering of the required signatures for a ballot initiative in 2006, the Alaska Supreme Court ruled in Kohlhaas v. State that any such secession proposal would be unconstitutional, and disallowed the measure from appearing on ballots.

Cowgirl, did they secede from the union to become their own nation?  That is a feeble example.  Cowgirl, do you also think it is legal to not pay taxes?  I assume if you subscribe to the views you have expressed on this website you also believe taxes are unconstitutional.

In 2008, several dozen Montana politicians, including Secretary of State Brad Johnson, threatened secession due to D.C. v. Heller, a Second Amendment case that was before the U.S. Supreme Court. In a joint resolution, the Montana politicians argued that when Washington approved the state constitution, including a clause granting “any person” the right to bear arms, upon the Treasure State’s entry into the Union in 1889, the federal government recognized that clause as consistent with the Second Amendment. If the Court had come down conclusively on the side of a collective right, they argued, it would breach the compact for statehood between Montana and the federal government.

I guess Cowgirl is the leader, is LH your Veep, Cow.

Well I suggest you guys get to work on your secession aspirations.  I’m sure a couple of smart whips such as Cow and LH can rally the minions and get this thing done for the great states of AK and MT.  Go get em guys.

ZooTown24…I am just making a reply to inquiry to the best of my ability. The examples I provided are from from the web and you can find them yourself. What I feel about paying Taxes is my business and not yours. I certainly will not reply to your questions again…as the info. found is not appreciated.

I am just participating in lively debate here Cow.  I am just trying to make sense of you and LHs views.  They just seem a bit outdated and out of touch with reality.  Are you and littlehawk the same person by the way?

I realize that seccesion is not a comortable topic,much less situation,for anyone.However it has happened many ,many times over the course of world history.Thats right, the U.S. is not the first.Nor will it be the last.The insanity lies in the Earths Elite which was almost destroyed by The Huns.But then Atila let lust get in the way of the tribes conquest.And allowed the elitest too escape via the channels directly through too The U.k.And regardless what the floridians believe they are what still haunts us “normal people” today!

Are you that lazy zoo?That you cannot even complete Cowgirlups handle?

Of course it has happened many times throughout the world LH.  Ever heard about what became of the Soviet Union?  LH you still haven’t explained to me the civil war and how it relates to secession.  Nor you haven’t given your interpretation of Texas V White and you also haven’t made clear what the process of secession would be.  Again I am just thirsting for more information from the likes of constitutional scholarls and historical intellects such as yourself and Cow.  That way I can rethink things and forge forth with a more enlightened and informed opinion.

Well zoo.whaat sort of peaceful solution do you predict?Being that most of our so called consortium works for the Elite?Too mee it is conform too their NWO or die.Good prospects in the future for oyr planet EH?Hope you will take the time too read the horror story post i made that has to do with the stories..

littlehawk…just finished reading your posts (links) re. the horror stories. They really are horror stories! Certainly gave me a new train of thought to explore. Thank you.

Wasn’t your fear mongering based on healthcare sir?  That has nothing to do with secession.

Zoo, since you obviously have a grasp of federal law, can you tell me please what exact law specifically states that the fed has the power to tax the wage of individual citizens?  And if you say the 16th Amendment, you are dead wrong.  The government has the power to tax INCOME, not WAGES.  A WAGE, by definition, is renumeration for services provides to an entity (i.e. a TRADE), whereas INCOME is what remains of revenue after expenses have been subtracted.  There is no LAW stipulating the creation of an IRS, and therefore has no basis for “income taxation”.  Granted, try using that argument in a federal court, and you may be charged with obstruction…do not pay “income tax” to the IRS like a good little drone, and you may end up on the receiving end of a pair of handcuffs by an IRS confiscation team with law enforcement support, who WILL take all of your assets in renumeration of this “debt”.  Point in fact…there is no law.  None.  The thugs who run and support our government do not care about you, saving only the fact that you are an asset that takes in air and nourishment and pays their taxes like a good little clone.  End of story.

JB..your so right! Most people are not aware that there is no exact law to tax wages. Good for you…you did your homework and get an A+. Most people are also not aware that the IRS audits itself…and is part of the the exec. branch. They answer only to themselves.

Sir, it doesnt matter what your interpretation is.  What matters is the interpretation of the supreme court.  Don’t you folks get that?  Who interprets the linguistics of the constitution?  Please tell me?  All of you folks love to give your interpretation of the constitution as you read understand it but the simple fact is your opinion does not matter in the larger context.  Sorry if reality sucks sir.

Cow, yes indeed an A+ for JB, he or she is indeed a sharp cookie.  All of you posting here, please adopt the philosophy of Cow and JB regarding taxes.  According to them it will save you a ton of dough and the law will be on your side when you inevitably end up in court so you shouldn’t have anything to worry about.  Just go jury trial.  LOL.

Ok one more question before I head to bed.  Is there a court in America that ultimately decides the rule of law, whether it be state or federal, and interprets how it relates to the constitution?  Thanks.

Zoo….  I am hoping that your comment ” A bit out of touch, and outdated”, are not directed at the 10th amendment/Constitution. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
NO part of our constitution becomes “OLD"nor “OUTDATED”.  It is the law of the land, our recipe for an American continent. That which offers it’s inhabitants freedoms that the majority of the rest of the world live without.  It makes this nation great ! Why do you think so many come to our borders ?
I would also like to know Zoo that if ( ln lets pretend land) that it is not possible for states to declare their sovereignty then why is it that Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.  While Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering such measures.  SO, what you are saying is that ALL these states do NOT know that this is NOT a law, and that they are doing what they CANNOT do ??  Oh please enlighten me !

So are all of these states you just mentioned their own nation now that doesn’t answer to our federal government?  Hmm, really, when did that happen?  By the way sir I never said the constitution is outdated.  Just your views on how it has been interpreted over the last couple of hundred years.  It just seems that all of you people have a completely different understanding of the document than the supreme court.  You should really cut and paste some stuff to them.  Apparently they are the ones that need clarification Grandog.

They are drawing their line in the sand…..........
zoodawg :  You have not anwsered to me that IF in fact the staes do not hold the rights of the 10th, then why is it that so many are declaring just that ?
Again do these states need you to contact them, and let them know that in fact they are mislead, and cannot do what they are doing ??
BTW:  I am not for secession, I think we would end up in a world of hurt, BUT if the states deem the threat so large to our freedoms, then who am I to say “DONT”.

Please.No name calling zoo.I find it much much more interesting when we debate without the name calling!

Sir, I don’t believe I have name called.  Granny, do you realize we were talking about secession?  Asserting sovereignty and suceeding from the union are not the same thing.  I figured a constitutional scholar such as yourself would know that.

Once again -  the civil war already established the precedent that states CANNOT secede from the USA…....

And the Supreme Court is the final arbiter short of a Constitutional Amendment…...

no matter what the libertarian/republican delusionalists think it

HEY - if you don’t like it leave!!!!!!

and little hawk - instead of using daddy’s influence tooling around on a cruise ship why not get a real job - like crabbing?

Too whom it may concern, my Father passed away 2 years ago.And I got this job by myself.Also if history has taught me anything it is that history repeats itself.Resolutions of sovereignty are just warning shots too the Feds.Resolutions on this issue are telling the Feds that they can and will secede if the Fed keeps doing what it is doing.

OK, so in the name of research, and explaining how this all works Zoo, I have wasted a good chunck of my morning, looking for someone’s words more knowledgeable then mine (Sense just typint the 10th does not seem to do it for you), to explain how the 10th/sovereignty works, well here it is….........


Clifford F. Thies

the inalienable right of secession,
the international law of secession, and
the US law of secession.
All three say yes.

The international law of secession is in the process of emerging at this very time. The U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights indicates that all people have the right to a country. A corollary of this is that no people should long be kept in nationless status, e.g., the Palestinians. A further corollary of this is that no people should long be kept in any subjugated status, such as by being citizens or subjects of a country from which they are alienated.Now, as a practical matter, consideration has to be given to whether an identifiable people exist in an identifiable place. At least, this is the current thinking. But, if these several elements come together: an identifiable people in an identifiable place that grouse under the subjugation of the larger nation, there is a growing consensus that this people and place can be severed from the larger nation, even by rebellion and with support from outside the larger nation. East Timor, Eritrea, and the devolutions of the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia (including the ongoing situation in Kosovo) illustrate the development of the international law of secession.

The US law of secession is thought to have been decided by the US Supreme Court in White v. Texas, following the Civil War. The actual matter to be decided was relatively insignificant. The Court used the occasion to issue a very broad decision. Chief Justice Chase, speaking for the Court, said,  The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.
Notice that the second sentence appears to totally contradict the first sentence.
The first sentence I just quoted invokes words such as “perpetual,” and in so doing may create the impression that the Supreme Court decreed that no state could ever secede from the Union. But, on careful reading, the relationship between Texas and the other states of the Union is merely “as indissoluble as the union between the original States.” In other words, Texas, having been a nonoriginal state, has no greater right of secession than do the original states. As to how states might secede, the second sentence says, “through revolution or through consent of the States.”

As to why a state might secede, either through revolution or through consent, Chief Justice Chase presciently discusses the 9th and 10th Amendments to the US Constitution, which reserve to the states and to the people thereof all powers not expressly granted to the federal government, and that the design of the Union, implicit in the very name “United States,” is the preservation of the states as well as of the Union:the preservation of the States, and the maintenance of their governments, are as much within the design and care of the Constitution as the preservation of the Union and the maintenance of the National government.The so-called United States of America ceases to exist when the political majority of the country attempts to rule the entire country as a nation instead of as a federal government. In such a circumstance, the “indestructible union of indestructible states” of which the Court speaks is already dissolved.
While the Constitution of 1789 required the secession of 9 out of 13 states, does this mean that a supermajority of the states would be necessary for consent? It seems to me that a supermajority would not be necessary, but only a simple majority, for a US version of what is called the “Velvet Revolution” in the former Czechoslovakia, now the Czech and Slovak Republics. In that country, dissolution involved nothing more earth shattering than a bunch of accountants who scurried about the country, totting up the value of the assets of the national government that would fall into the possession of each succeeding government so as to determine how to fairly apportion the national debt to the succeeding governments. Of course, in that case, both succeeding governments transitioned to membership in the European Union, guaranteeing the free flow of goods, labor and capital between them and the other members of the E.U., as well as guaranteeing certain civil liberties and democratic processes to the persons in each of the succeeding republics.

Typical liberalism.Libs always resort too name calling and attempt too demoralize the person with whom they just lost their argument with.

Also the craft of which I work on is a 58’ Schooner named Nikki-Nik not a cruise ship.

what you don’t realize is that you ALREADY LOST the argument.  A CENTURY AGO!!!!!!!!

the supreme court - the highest law in the land - already established precedent.

Why do the republicans love to live in the past?  And want to fight the same old battles over and over?

ALASKA is still taking money from the oil companies and - exactly like WELFARE handing it out to everyone.

AND much of that oil is coming off federal land - so where’s my cut?

ALSO Alaska receives much more money from the feds than it pays in making ALASKA a FREELOADER/socialist state!

Hold on here just a second.You are all for giving people FREE health care too all the welfare people and all the illegal immigrants and so on and so on.But if a citizen of Alaska gets a measly little check from Big Oil profits every year then they are a freeloader.Kinda contradicting yourself.Go figure.So in your eyes regulating health insurance is OK.But too regulate Big Oil is not OK.So what is the difference between a check from big oil profit and free health care.Well I will tell you the difference.The check from big oil is something that big oil agreed too and was not forced too do.Free health care will be payed for by FORCEING people too give up their hard earned money every pay day.Or go too jail.Now here would be a possible solution.How about Big Insurance taking part of their massive profits and paying for healthcare too people that cannot affod their own.But i can see where you would not like that woody.Because you would rather see the average American pay for it out of their checks that allot of them are living off of from paycheck too paycheck.Get real dude.

Thats impressive that you can do an internet search and cut and paste your response Granny…by the way who is name calling LH?  So what is the difference between sucession and sovereignty?  Because before you started cutting and pasting other peoples thoughts you seemed to think they were the same thing.  Well I think I am finished with you folks again.  As I believe woody mentioned a few days ago, you cannot enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.  One more thing, why is it that you guys think your interpretation of the constitution and the many supreme court decisions are correct and the supreme courts are wrong?  Do you guys realize how big of a fringe minority you are?  I really wish that the beacon had a way of voting on the comments posted.  I certainly see why Montana has been stigmatized in the eyes of so many.  How unfortunate that the few make the many look so poor.  You guys are so beyond gone it is baffling.  Well hopefully none of raise children because pushing the beliefs you espouse here on them is going to give them a very poor start in life.  With that I think I am going to go golfing in the rain.  Maybe Ill check back in a week again or so and see if we have any new bloggers.  Last thing granny, stop cutting and pasting other peoples work.  LH, sorry to hear about your dad, I also have a dad getting up there in age so when I hear about people who have lost a parent it makes me take a step back and value the time we have together.  Good day folks, enjoy the vigerous discussion and lively debate.

Yeah ZOO…. Judge all you want OH perfect complete in all knowledge, one that needs to study nothing…. Rather god like are we not ?
Our opnions were not GOOD enough for you, so I studied others means of explaining ( its called research, it’s what the rest of us do from birth to death to learn, unlike you perfect ones that are born knowing all already) Also I might add that it is much easier, and better for time managment to copy and paste then to type it all out…....  And as I have done I gave the wise gentleman credit for his words and works, as was posted on the internet for public viewing…...... Well I too am pleased for the day, must have proved the point to have you thrashing about like a tiger with his tail on fire….. And yet you still argue even though above is about as much proof as needed, believe as you want, say what you will, go ram rod your negativity down someone elses throat,hate to be the person playing golf along a poor sport such as you…...
Some of us were not blessed to learn that you win some, you loose some, and other times it is a draw.
I’ve been judged by better, could be judged by worse, but in the end your advice and opnion of me means nothing at all !
If you cant stand the heat, stay outta the sandbox !
<Sh**, giggle, grin and do it again !> It’s still a lovely day, and the rain has called the morel mushrooms out, I will go in search of this wonderful fungi, happy as ever… Life goes on with or without your blessings zoo

Last post before Im outta here.  Gee you got me, you are correct in everything you say and do granny, I concede, you are enlightened and now I am as well.  I just thank the good lord he sent you to me to open my eyes.  Thank the good lord I no longer have to thrash about with my ignorance.  Well tee time is in 30 so im out of here.  Thank you so much for the great info, I mean facts, I feel better now that I have been enlightened and can join the ranks of the extreme fringe.  I just wish I would’ve quit paying taxes years ago now that you guys have explained to me that they are unconstitutional and the supreme court is wrong.  Shoot my ignorance cost me way to much dough.  Thanks guys.

no one said health care was, is or will be free -  we just want to get the “profits over people” mentality out of health care - where it has led to a rapid decrease in our life expectancy vis-a-vis the rest of the world…..

I was pointing out the fact that the rightwing loves their check from the gov in alaska - but if anyone else gets a check they are a welfare bum - what’s good for the goose isn’t good for the gander according to the rightwingers ......

it’s called hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance…..or in laymens terms “refusing to believe the truth when it’s staring you in the face”

the republican belief system is profits for the rich are more important than WE THE PEOPLE - which is why it has become more and more a fringe out -of-touch party - thank GOD!

OH now you assume that I do not pay my taxes, I’ve been paying property taxes for years, income taxes as well.  I do what is required of me by the law, and will unless it is legally changed….... Do not assume that if I do not adhere to your beliefes that I am an outlaw, nor an extremist, we that believe differant then you are NOT bad guys Zoo ! Just like I do not assume that you are of bad seed because your views are differant then mine…..
Give a person a bit of credit, dont judge so , appreciate differances as making us all unique…........
and I can say all that without drama, or any amount of rudeness….... try it out sometime !

It is not welfare if big oil wants too share with the good citizens of Alaska.Welfare is money forceably taken from one too give too another which as what you want with healthcare..Twist it as you may.

OK, woody, just take your Valium and pay your taxes like a good little drone, while us “right-wingers” invest money and time in improving your quality of life.  No need to thank us (not that you would anyway).

it seems it’s more likely you and the rest of the “rush is reich” crowd that is drugged up…...talk about anti-american - limbaugh is the #1 anti-american out there- followed closely by dick cheney - they are both basically wanting us to get hit and wanting the president -and hence the country to fail!  what a bunch of patriots….NOT!

YOU jb have done nothing for me….you and your pro-corporate- profits at any cost people are following the same corporatist agenda followed by mussilini -  it’s called fascism!

Paying taxes is the price we pay to live in a society - if you don’t pay them then you cause the gov to go broke and then I have to pay your share…..pretty much the exact philosophy of the freeloading republicans -

and the true drones are you quasi-libertarians that think being good little royalists/ “corporations are god” that have got us in the trouble we are in now - 

luckily the ADULTS are back in charge in Washington and not the war criminals from the bush admin you all loved so much for years…..

and go ahead - keep cheating on your taxes if that is the cool thing to do….whicxh i suppose it is considering all you john stokes is such a cool guy clones - maybe then we can give you a few free days in the graybar hotel w/ the other kgez convicts

let’s see - what have the republicans given us lately:
1. largest gap between the rich and poor since before the great depression
2. great depression #2
3. 7th to 47th in life expectancy
4. mad cow disease and other food borne illnesses due to selling out to agri-busienss and their motto of profits over people
5. federal debt explosion - remember no republican president has balanced a budget in over 60 years - the LAST demo president did..
6. torturing and breaking the Constitution by spying on Americans
7. letting big business police itself and then we get smithfield foods and the swine flu, bernie madoff, enron and the collapse of the entire world economy - luckily a democrat is there to fix that problem
8. tax breaks for shipping jobs to china -
9. tim mcveigh and the rise of rightwing extremism


the list goes on and on and then righties such as those above have the gall and nerve to think they has been a positive influence on this country….

and they call themselves Christians - which is the biggest joke of all!

and talk about thinskinned - they love to insult and beat up on lefties but then say one thing about them and it’s cry to mama time….

Wait a minut woody.you are the one that said underpaying on your taxes and finding loopholes was okREEEEMEMMMMDERRR!!!What a hypocrite!And you still have not answered why is it you are always calling people freeloaders but want FREELOADER HEALTHCARE!!!????Please sir,clarify yourself.

You poked fun at someone and their deceased father and not even an apology.Typical liberaly mentally deranged liberal.Have a nice day Woody.

First off, I never insulted anyone’s father, I simply said he played a hand in getting Littlehawk a job. That is not an insult if you took it as one I never insult anyone’s family. Why would I insult his father when Littlehawk is such an easy target.

Secondly, I have never ever supported being a TAX CHEAT. Littlehawk you are wrong, what I said is john Stokes has not even filed since 1985 and the people from the obama administration thought they had a loophole which they didn’t actually have. There is a big difference between trying to take advantage of a legal accounting maneuver and NOT FILING in 25 year. Besides the fact I said those people should have been fired.

Let me refresh your ailing memory——————————-By woody on 05-02-09
Stokes hasn’t even filed since 1985 that is a little different from taking advantage of a tax loophole or underpaying a little bit.————————-.But why is it stokes should be jailed?And only fire your Tri-lateral buddies that work for Obama.And Hate too break it too ya.But “finding a loophole” is the same thing as cheating.Twist it as you will.

Also it is an insult too the deceased father too use him too insult LH. Your code of ethics is not good at all.

Loopholes are what get murderers and rapist off the hook rite?