Comments on: Montana Poised to Buck Federal Gun Control
By jman on 04-05-09
Good we need to this.
By Gene Harriman on 04-05-09
Great!! Let’s hope our fine govnor dosen’t get weak in the knees over over all this state soventry stuff, like he did over the real I.D., and sell us out again!!
By m on 04-05-09
Anything that gives power to one person to kill another needs to regulated at the state and federal level.
By grannysgadgets on 04-05-09
Gov. Brian Schweitzer Pass this bill !!! I’m so thrilled to have seen that it made it through the house ! This will make jobs, and lively hoods for Montanan’s. Not to mention the fact stated that guns are a part of Montanans culture, passed from one generation to the next !
m on : The list of things that one could use to kill another person is to long to go into ( But would include almost every object there is) Lets not get more regulation ! Hate to be told what to do with my butter knives !
By m on 04-05-09
You do not have to worry about buying butter knives containing lead or toxic materials, thanks to regulations.
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
Sonds like m is really mt don.Like JB has said before.“It reeks with your charming commentary”
By grannysgadgets on 04-05-09
If I sat back and worried over every thing that may, or might harm or hurt me…... I would not live a life, and would probably live inside a bubble looking out at those that opted to live instead hoping that every last thing on this earth could be regulated for safety ! ( Sad proof would end up being that I would have allowed another to regulate me out of exsistance !)This is Montana, it is what we do, who we are, how we live….... I would not go to New Orleans and try to enforce my thoughts that partying, flashing, beads and jumbolia should be regulated by the feds, to tell them what they can no longer do at their historical get together (aka the whole nastalgia of Louisiana) !
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
I agree grannys gadgets.People like “m” are perfect example of “The Wussification Of America”.By the time I was 7 I was hunting in the woods with buddies.“Over regulation” is turning our little boys into little girls.No offense meant ladies.
By grannysgadgets on 04-05-09
I hear ya Littlehawk…... It’s a problem of people needing to think for themselves, and stop waiting for someone to tell you what to do, and how to do it. Not saying there are not those bad guys in the world that will take and do harm with a good thing, but a peron intent on causing harm or murder, they will use anything they can get their hands on…..... Look back across history they did’nt soley need a gun, heck some did mass murders with planes and box cutters !!!! ( Imagine if 1, ONE person would have been armed on that day, one on each plane…..... Could have changed the out come !) Never forget guns also SAVE many lives ! Is the glass half empty, or is it half full ??
By Dirigo on 04-05-09
I look at this wonderful idea a little differently. It would be great if the Governor signs it and it works out for you guys in Montana. I would support it in any way I can from North Carolina. More importantly is this - whatever happens you are sending a message to the White House - “We will not be subjugated”. We have a President that has fired the CEO of a major corporation, Ordered the merger of another one to a foreign company which will then be paid 5 billion dollars of our money, has empaneled a group and initiated legislation to investigate the feasibility of “Mandatory Service” for young people (indentured servantry has caused more than one revolution), and is now in the process of weakening our countries defenses. He is undoing all that has been gained through the blood of patriots. The Democratic Congress is making an effort to silence their detractor’s on the radio by law because liberal talk radio can’t survive with conservative talk radio in the free market environment. New Hampshire is considering legislation that would trigger the cessation of that state should the federal government enact any of several of the above. It will never happen. Your bill has a much higher likelyhood of survival but it is important to let this “regime” know that at least half of the country does not approve of the collective social view of the Democratic juggernaut.
Mark Twain said it best, “Loyalty to country always, and to Government when it deserves it”.
By Cowgirl up on 04-05-09
By what constitutional right does the president have to fire a CEO or order the merger of a company with a foreign company? What…the government is in the car business now? Used, new, or both?And now they want to regulate our guns by federal laws! What will they want to regulate next? The air we breathe, the water we drink or the when we go to bed and get up? I think there’s too many laws!!Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them. Paul Valery (1871-1945)
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
My email addy is littlehawk12@live.com Right on Cowgirl up. But guns are not all the fed wants to regulate under the Nobama administration.They are going after our gardens also.Food control.If this bill is passed we will have to purchase a permit in order to grow a garden. And you will only be able to purchase certain seeds.Food czar.Lets not forget The car czar.I guess Nobama will be shoving cheap “green cars” down our throats next.
By robert on 04-05-09
This is great news! I wish my state had the principles to do the same. It’s good to know some states “get it”.
By Cowgirl up on 04-05-09
littlehawk…regulate gardens and seeds? Didn’t know about that one!
robert…do hope you were kidding…if not…do hope you stay in your own state and not come to mine!
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
thats right Cowgirl up.Well you know that the Fed does not want you to have many choices anymore.Anyway Monsantos gave lots of money to the Nobama adm.So now Nobama and his socialist cronies will give Monsantos the corner market for seeds.“Terminator seeds”.Seeds that will onlly grow once so you cannot drie your own from your harvest for next year check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZL6q-3LOw
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
also look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZL6q-3LOw
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
Another one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvGBljwnSE&NR=1
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
ONE more…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8YQBEV4_4&feature=related
By try again on 04-05-09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8YQBEV4_4&feature=related
By Cowgirl up on 04-05-09
littlehawk…sooooo where have I been not to know about the food czars? There is so much…where do you start and how do you stop it? I’ve called, emailed and written our reps. and nothing happens. They just don’t listen to us.
By Cowgirl up on 04-05-09
try again….I give up! I am really un-informed!
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
Thats OK Cowgirl Up.Dont give up.That is exactly what the fed wants you to do.I have begun by trying to empower myself.buy storable food ,seeds,ammo.Whatever i need to try and sustain my own livelihood & style to some extent.I have even ordered a fuel alcohol steel.Or for medicinal spirits.My suggestion Cowgirl Up,Think about what you need and dont worry so much about what bigot politicians do.empower yourself first. Empowering yourself first gives you more stamina to fight off the evil.
By Cowgirl up on 04-05-09
littlehawk….good ideas! I’ve already started getting my ammo….when I can find it to buy. Will now start getting seeds. Since I’m a “cannner” I always have a store of food put by. I am now familar with the natural resources in this area and am using that knowlege. Oh yeah…always have a bottle of Jack Daniels….for medicinal use of course. Besides…Jack makes for good barter. It just seems like we fight on one side of the field and another war pops up on the other side. Will start thinking more of what I would need to survive.
By littlehawk12 on 04-05-09
I am only so so at canning,Did you get my coffee invite?Would like to share thoughts and ideas in person with you and grannysgadgets and any other free liberty loving minded individuals also.I think the Constitutional Party is still meeting at perkins in Evergreen.Maybe we could all hook up there sometime.I will keep you posted for more info.
By Cowgirl up on 04-05-09
littlehawk….check your email
By grannysgadgets on 04-06-09
Littlehawk, & cowgirl : Yes there is a bill HR 875 and S 425 that is circulating in DC. These two bills are as Littlehawk put it basically a food czar. Because the wording is so broad they could regulate your gardenspot, your garden seeds ( having to purchase permits to grow) Not to mention your eggs from your chickens, and the meat from that elk you harvested !!! TO KEEP US SAFE !!! gads SO sick of it !!!!!!Also it is very true that Obama fired the CEO of GM, so yes runs cars, banks, and not to forget wallstreet !
Littlehawk and cowgirl, YES one day it would be ince to have coffee !
By grannysgadgets on 04-06-09
My only comment : Why dont you try to state a fact, or a comment, or something usefull ? Do you consider yourself the comment czar ?Hmmm open minded people, people that communicate with eachother must be unemployed ? Sounds like the same BSer that was making comments about us on the other states rights page….....
Your bitterness only encourages me MORE ! <smile>
ps. NOT to toot my own horn ! mI’ll have you know that I am busier then a one legged man at a butt kicking contest, run our own BUSINESSES (plural thats right) I and WE employ OURSELVES (thats where that darn free thinking gets ya right ?)
By Nancy on 04-06-09
Right on! Go, Granny, go.
By JB on 04-06-09
Like the sponsor of this bill stated…it’s really not about guns; its more about states rights. Thankfully, more and more states are taking a stand on this issue, and even a couple of states have already passed legislation. As much as I would love to say this is about our right to own and enjoy firearms…firearms are just the object of this particular issue; its about much more than that.
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
Yeh!I Thought that was Kellyn’s job!
By Mario on 04-06-09
More power to you, Montana! I hope you succeed. I may even move there if you pull this one off. I almost did when you bucked the national 55mph speed limit a long time ago. This may do it for me…
To M: I can easily kill you with my bare hands and I am by far not alone in posessing this “ability”... should the govenment regulate that too? Should I have to register my body as a lethal weapon… as has been said jokingly in many movies?? Get a clue!
By Yosemite1967 on 04-06-09
It’s almost time to sing the Ewok freedom-celebration song. Governor, please sign this bill, so we can say, “Ee chub yubnub!” (We have freedom!)
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
@ Yosemite Is that not a cartoon character?Proves my point when I say Liberal left wing LOONY TOON!!!HAAAHAAAA!!!!!
By freedom rings true. on 04-06-09
Yeah for Montana. Grandpa always said montana was second most beautiful state right behind alaska. yep, make your own guns and interstate commerce laws can go screw themselves. You know chris dodds father was father of interstate commerce laws and look at the criminal son he raises. fannie & freedie he supported. bonuses for AIG whom funded his campaign. what a crook. lets face it states need to succeed from the obama welfare government central planning control mentality. you know Beautiful Montana, I might just move there. I encourage all peoples whom think on their own to move out of tax and spend central communist planning states like NY, NJ or even ILLinois. These folks should move to free states and build a firewall.
By TheDavid on 04-06-09
“By m on 04-05-09
Anything that gives power to one person to kill another needs to regulated at the state and federal level.”
How about knives or baseball bats or rocks? Should we regulate those since we can use them to kill people. Perhaps you should read the 2nd admendment:
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be INFRINGED.”
Regulation=infringement
By Colorado on 04-06-09
And don’t forget the word Czar is literally Emperor.
The Feds want to be our king and have no real respect for the republic anymore.
By fryerj on 04-06-09
Yes read the second amendment, What well regulated militia do you belong to David? And what power is about to take over Montana? Canada. Stop living in your apocalyptic fanatasy the world is not going to end and no one is taking away your guns. Stop being so paranoid!!!
By Mario on 04-06-09
Colorado…. I too have issue with the government using the term ‘Czar” for a job title—“Drug Czar”, “Health Care Czar” etc….
Actually, the word ‘Czar” is a Russian mishmash of the word “Caesar”—same as “Kaiser” in Germany, “Caudillo” in Spain, etc….. all the same.. used to describe a dictator with absolute power to do as he pleases.
Not good…..
By MT Bound on 04-06-09
THIS will take back some FREEDOM stripped away from us (those who live in MT)...Praise God!!! If MT keeps it up, it will be the freest place on earth to live…what do you think that will do for your economy!!
You’ll have Californians begging to live there—but i recommend keeping them out and keeping the state pure.
By grannysgadgets on 04-06-09
Nancy : <wink> gosh darn type so fast when someone gets my goat I end up making up my own words aka/ typos ! LOL
All other posters : YES, using terms as czar points out a ruler, NOT what America is supposed to have !!!!! Sends chills down your spine dont it ! To imagine they are SO self assured that they will use that term themselves ! =0(
By DeFens on 04-06-09
Even in Montana, it appears the mainstream media demonstrate their bias against RKBA. This article is littered with adjectives and adverbs with a distinct anti-gun slant. For example, the intent of the legislation isn’t to “skirt” federal regulations - it’s to demonstrate that the feds have overstepped their Constitutional boundaries in imposing them. Another example: Why did the reporter claim that a Montana arms manufacturer would “threaten” to build rifles? Seems to me that a simple notification would be all that’s required.
Anti gun bigots exist everywhere - even in relatively free states like Montana.
DeFens
By MT Bound on 04-06-09
DeFens,
You are correct in your observation…this is why Montanans who love freedom need to support their legislators more than ever who actually propose anti-federal-controlled establishment and NWO agenda. More than that, be an active part in MT politics to revolutionize freedom in MT.
“Build it and they will come”...
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
For those who care…..Here is a great article on Monsanto and Montana…http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/monsanto_hosts_dinner_for_montana_legislators_on_seed_sampling_bill/C559/L559/#comments
By try again on 04-06-09
http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/monsanto_hosts_dinner_for_montana_legislators_on_seed_sampling_bill/C559/L559/#comments
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
After reading the article closer.I decided it is only a “good artice” if you can decipher the lies.
By Vince Warde on 04-06-09
As much as I cheer for those of you in the “free states”, those of us in the People’s Republik of Kalifornia - who still actually own guns - are hoping that Heller will eventually be used to invalidate our draconian state laws. To that extent alone, I hope that federal law extends to the states.
And yes, we are thinking of moving - already have a house in Idaho.
By MT Bound on 04-06-09
To “Vince Warde”,
While I can appreciate your wanting the States to enjoy the “laws” of the federal government and thus, you want the federal gun laws to apply to states, I have to say, if you think freedom will be protected by federal laws and Washington DC you have got to be out of your mind. They are the cause, not the solution to any problems we are facing today.
The Fed’s corruption and antithetical natural law implementation has been shoved down the States’ throat for over a century and is finally come to a head. I say, to hell with any “protections” of the federal government. With so-called “protection” only comes more of their tyrannical strings attached.
The Founders acknowledged that we had a natural right given from “Nature and Nature’s God” to alter, amend or abolish the federal government if they ever become “destructive to the ends” of freedom found in natural law. MT is only doing its duty to protect Montanans from the tyrannical laws of the federal government. I say they need to move forward with more such laws…and if the Fed’s don’t take their greedy, tyrannical hands off, then MT should secede.
Indeed, many are moving to States that will do just that…“MT Bound” included…I look forward to joining the fight for freedom in a state of people who actually want to be separate from the federal government.
By Dave J on 04-06-09
Go !!!! Montana !!!
It is because of free people like you, Make it possible for people like me to still Love this country.
I have started a web in support of The 2nd Ammendment www.elks684.com. I am located in Maryland UNITED STATES of AMERICA.
God Bless you
Dave J
U.S. Army (Retired) but still fighting for Freedom
By Cowgirl up on 04-06-09
grannysgadgets..can’t wait to sit down and chat with you and littlehawk. I’m really looking forward to it.United we stand…divided we fall…that’s as old as the hills…but true.
By Woodpiggie on 04-06-09
I just clicked onto my NRA email expecting to see nothing but anti freedom anti gun items posted tonight. What great news! Make it real Montanans.
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
Dont forget about meeting the rest of the Constitutional Party too Cowgirl Up!Hopefully they will have the regular meeting at Perkins this week.I’ll keep ya posted.
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
Try this one Woodpiggie.Much better and more patriotic than the NRA could ever hope to be….................http://gunowners.org/
By Woodpiggie on 04-06-09
Thank you littlehawk. Will look into it.
By MT Bound on 04-06-09
Littlehawk12,
are you a part of the Constitutional Party?
By AkSarBen on 04-06-09
Wonderful news if Montana Govenor signs the bill. Pehaps it will set presedence some day!! Buy ammo when you can, and reloading supplies, when you can. Always love one another and your neighbor and help to take care of one another. Protect one another from those that would be lawless and do harm. Not all are shepards, and there are many wolves.
My sister lives in Western Montana, and would like to visit someday, and be able to carry my concealed pistol with me when I do, and not worry about if it is legal or not. It is good to hear of such legislature. In fact, I emailed the bill’s sponsor with guidelines for some clarifications and grammatical suggestions. Hope it all passes!
http://Taurus45ACP.com you all can drop by there and check out the links, and say howdy.
Vern
By Fedcorp Slave on 04-06-09
Hurray for Montana. God Bless You !!!Montana; Savior of the Republic !!
You know all the bad things you have heard about the Fed’s, well, they are all true. Tell them to shove off and keep out or else! I’m ready any time my home state decides to throw down on these scum!
Ten years now under their boot as a so-called citizen of Washington working on contract to the Feds, Yet, I have no rights as either a Citizen of Washington or the protections of a Federal Worker. Fedcorp has sold every citizens rights to corporations and made them people without any legal protections. Essentially, just like the Nazi’s created Stateless people in order to legally dispose of them since they legally had no rights as Stateless Persons! I’m not exaggerating one bit! It’s all Catch 22: Watchout People! There are good reasons for the Second Amendment. So many people have forgotten the lessons of history. They say it’s all different now, gee, I wasn’t aware humans had changed any in the last few thousand years. Anyone else out there see any differences?
Your not alone Montana, your childern are everywhere in the the Republic! Cowgirls, Cowboys, even Crossed Cows, are
ready, willing , and able to throw in with ya all any time, any place. Huray for Montana! First to Fight Tyranny! A Beacon in the Dark! Montana We Love You!
By Cowgirl up on 04-06-09
littlehawk…keep me up to date…will plan on Fri. unless I hear different.
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
@MT Bound.Not Officially ......YET!But let me ask you a few questions.ARE you a natural born US citizen?Do you love your country?Will you die for your rights?If you have answered yes to the above,then you are a member of the unofficial Constitutional party.
By MT Bound on 04-06-09
Littlehawk12,
There are 3 requirements for a republic to survive: (1) love of country, (2) education of where freedom comes from, and (3) virtue. I claim all three elements, as I know freedom comes from God, as expressed in the natural and revealed laws of God—remarked by not only our Founders, but by generations of Englishmen before them.
Since most (if not all) 50 states acknowledge the natural rights of man, as does our US Constitution, I loyally support, defend and protect our constitutions, more specifically, our state constitutions, which are more fundamentally secure than our US Constitution because it has unfortunately been “trampled under the foot of men” (i.e. tyrants).
Thus, I do not consider myself a party-follower, but rather a freedom-follower. As such, MT has my full support for their decisions to rid the federal tyrants off of their backs. If it comes to forcing them off, then I will lend my muscle, mind and spirit in helping them. I hope many of you would join the effort and are doing so now!
By the way, I have a very close relationship with the one who ran for President under the Constitution Party 2008.
You should be looking out for a book coming out this Summer called, “Freedom for a Change.”
By Thomas Bullard on 04-07-09
Alabama supporter,I am all for Montanan’s states rights ,our fedzilla gov’t is in criminal violation of our U.S.Constitution and the governance that It authorizes.A tsuanmi backlash is coming .
By J B Books on 04-07-09
I’m always amazed at how few congress-critters have ever read the Bill of Rights all the way to the end… if the Constitution doesn’t specifically grant the feds a power they don’t lawfully have it.
By Yosemite1967 on 04-07-09
littlehawk12, though I admit that the image of Ewoks celebrating their freedom is not as complimentary as other images that I might’ve chosen, I meant it in a positive way.
I was comparing our plight for freedom with the story line of the Star Wars trilogy, wherein the rebels and simple folk (like Ewoks) are fighting for their freedom from tyrrany by those who are too “smart” and “powerful” for their own britches, like Emperor Palpatine, etc.
If we take ancient and modern prophesy seriously, in the end, we know who shall win…(to continue the comparison) the Ewoks. :^)
By shooterbob on 04-07-09
If anything that can kill someone needs to be federally regulated then any car owned anywhere in the US must have its sell authorized by the fed if you follow the logic ‘m’ is using… I asked my wife if we could move… I won’t be coming if I’ve got to bring my Mo-in-Law, but otherwise, pass this and I’m going to start looking for a job in Montana!
By shooterbob on 04-07-09
someone mentioned if anyone had been armed on the flights of 9/11. I would have been. I always carried a max length legal lock blade and would have gone hand to hand at least as far as to gut that SOB that killed the stewardess in 1st class. No flights were bound for or came out of the south… There’s a reason for that and it wasn’t just fuel load, plane size and flying time. You wonder if anyone on 93 had at the least a lock blade knife?
By littlehawk12 on 04-07-09
@Yosemite.Misunderstandings and what nots happen.I never wil claim to be anything close too perfect myself…
By Yosemite1967 on 04-07-09
Right—same here. The only perfect person who ever walked the earth was one who didn’t have a paternal grandfather. ;^)
By AkSarBen on 04-07-09
m on had said “You do not have to worry about buying butter knives containing lead or toxic materials, thanks to regulations.” This is not necessarily so… pure capitalism would regulate itself without government intervention. Once the word was spread that butter knives was on the market being sold with inferior materials, they would be shunned and then the buying public would buy the ones that might be a little more expensive, but the quality was there. You don’t make a good product you should not stay in business. Only those that make good things reap well the rewards.
If Montana made guns are well made and stay in Montana, then the Montana public will have a sweet desert of a firearm. One that is exemplary made and one that no one in other states can possess. Might even draw some folks to move to Montana for the “Montana Made” stuff. Nothing wrong in doing something well and getting a reward. It’s when socialists government step in to create guidelines on who what when and where, that many things end up costing so much that what once was well made, good, is not so cost prohibitive that folks look elsewhere for better deals. Government should stick with defending the citizens that pay them taxes and regulate the influx of foreigners and affairs, and leave the working small/large business to run, succeed, or fail. Failing is good, if it weeds on inferior designs, workmanship, materials, etc, whereas bail outs do no one any good.
By SammHill on 04-07-09
God-speed Montana.
By m on 04-07-09
To all of you who mentioned ways of killing, I know you can’t legislate crazy thinking or anger but I sure would rather have you out on a rampage with bare hands or butter knives then guns.
By liveninNE on 04-07-09
We must not forget why and how this country was formed. We need to stand up and be heard. Now I am not saying that we need to take out the goverment just remind them that they work for us.
From Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
Paris, November 13, 1787
Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.
By littlehawk12 on 04-07-09
I agree m.I prefer a good roundup rope myself
By JB on 04-07-09
@liveinNE: Reminding the feeb will not do any good. The time for action is now. One state breaking from the union will start the ball rolling and bring their house of cards crashing down. When a government does not serve the people, it oppresses the people…its that simple.
By Cowgirl up on 04-07-09
M..I can kill with a bow, knife, tomahawk, spear or club. I don’t need a gun…but it’s a lot safer. There is no such thing as a fair fight when my life, or my family’s life, is at stake.
By V on 04-07-09
All citizens in all State need to take back federal lands and take control of all federal parks.. if the Feds want to create al Park. all well and good. But the land belongs to the State not the Feds and the State Assemblies and Senates need to approve such parks. State Parks employees not Federal Employees need to operate such parks and the feds need to compensate the State for lands designated as such to offset the costs to use the land for other purposes.. From Yellowstone to the Grand Canyon.. These are the natural resorces of the individual states and the States need to control them not the Federal Government..
State Sovereignty and Territorial integrity is more important than another billion acres stolen from a Western State by a bunch of ECO Freaks living like Sardines back East.
V
By grannysgadgets on 04-08-09
Check out Bob Beckel’s little comment about Montana on Fox news…...... Also talks about the tea party in Kalispell !!Clickable link below
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=71C0Aqs5xRc&feature=relatd
By preacherjohn on 04-08-09
history has several accounts of unarmed societies that were at the mercy of a central gov’t [Hitler’s Germany] for one that ended in genocide. China, Russia are other examples where dissidents who are unarmed are rounded up and executed. We need to see the handwriting on the wall.
By MTMountainGirl on 04-08-09
We’re watching this legislation closely here in SW Montana ~ Governor sure needs to sign it. A gentle word of warning to those who speak of moving to Montana ~ hopefully you are aware of the common severity of our 6 to 8 month winters??
And I believe the unofficial state motto is ~ Don’t Californicate Montana
By Esrussell on 04-08-09
I’m on the edge of my seat watching how this plays out from my home state of Virginia. I can’t believe that my state, the state of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Patrick Henry and many other Patriots is starting to become populated more and more with socialists, and statists (mostly from New England and NYC). It makes me sad that our country has changed so much but what is happeneing in Montana proves that there is still some hope that our country can get back on track.
By Joni on 04-08-09
I am a temporarily displaced Montanan, and when I had to get a permit to purchase a hand gun to have in my home for my protection, I knew it was time to come home. This reinforces that decision. God I love my home state.
By Fedcorp Slave on 04-08-09
I’d like to suggest a couple of websites for readers. One, Urban Survival is the free daily web blog of George Ure who is linked with the WebBot linguistic time prediction technology.You can read about this technology at Halfpast Human
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/
http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm
How this relates will become apparent with inquiry and thought. The WebBots have made many accurate predictions, including 9/11, the Challenger Disaster, to name just two.
You might also check out Project Censored http://www.projectcensored.org/ as well as Information Clearing House http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
One thing you can be sure of though, your not getting any news on MSN.
By clark on 04-09-09
Sport shooting is fun. Tin cans! Gun making provides jobs too. Illinois chased several manufacturers out of their state into mine. I suspect mine will chase them away too with high taxes & regulations.6-8 months of winter ...hmmm. How are the skeeters & gnats?
By ShooterBob on 04-09-09
You really don’t want me ‘out on a rampage’ with just a butter knife or my bare hands… I’m stealing a gasoline tanker and dumping the fuel into the sewers. One good spark and BLAM! It flattened a town in Mexico several years ago…
(I am just kidding here folks, just think ‘m’ is cute and fun to poke at )
By Wish I was in Montana on 04-09-09
m - Something to consider… How do you think the American revolution would have turned out if Americans were only allowed to have their bare hands or butter knifes? It is for the fact that they had guns that you enjoy the opportunities of the country you live in. Think about it.
By Dave on 04-10-09
m - Sounds like you want to take no responsibility and have the government do everything for you. A person can be killed by ANYTHING. Your hands could kill someone so we had better regulate those, or maybe you’re not qualified to own them so we need to remove them! What a ridiculous comment you make. If you don’t want liberty (which obviously you don’t as you’re willing to sell it out for nothing), then go somewhere where they have none. America is a land of liberty and is for those who appreciate it.
By Doug on 04-10-09
M, you would rather have someone on a rampage with bare hands or a butter knife? Obviously you know nothing about weapons. Have you ever worked in or known someone who’s worked in a prison. They can use anything as a weapon. A rolled up newspaper can kill someone. In the hands of some people a toothbrush is more deadly than a gun in the hands of a novice. Spend some time around people who know and you’ll find out how much you don’t know.
BTW, hurray for Montana. Sounds like a place for people who want freedom. Many of us may have to consider moving there if things keep going the way they are.
By m on 04-10-09
People who want to carry a guns are imposing their will on everyone else. For example, Seung-Hui Cho and the gun lobby is saying, the students at Virginia Tech had the choice being in a shoot out or dying. They didn’t even know they had to make the choice. Boy, that is grand freedom and liberty.
Now if guns existed in the numbers they do in several other countries, those students probably would have graduated and would have never had to make the choice. That is real freedom and liberty.
You bet I don’t want to take responsibility for being in a shoot out while at the grocery store or the bank. I don’t have the training, nor do I wish to learn. I have better things to do. Maybe it’s important to you but it’s not to me or most of the citizens of this country. Where’s the freedom and liberty in living scared?
Yes, I do think it is the government’s job to protect me, my children, the students at Virginia Tech and you, weather it’s in food safety, driving laws, or gun ownership and usage.
PS Your hands are regulated, it’s called assault.
By Wish I was in Montana on 04-10-09
m - There are states with strict gun control right now, California, New York, etc.. Your always welcome to move to one of those states. Oh and by the way they also have the highest rates of violent crime, go figure. Did you ever consider moving to a country with total gun prohibition? And I honestly mean that sincerely. Even though many are totalitarian dictatorships, there are some that are not. While Canada doesn’t have total prohibition, they have more gun control than the USA. Ever consider moving to Canada?
By Wish I was in Montana on 04-10-09
m - Did you ever think that gun control advocates are imposing their will on those of us who wish to be able to defend their families in a potential crisis or other emergency?
By MT Bound on 04-10-09
To “Wish” and others like him and myself,
Look, accept the fact that there are people living in America who have the same concept of liberty as the French and Spanish colonists did in Canada, the West Indies, etc. during the 1600 and 1700’s: they accepted living in a despotic and an absolutists regime where they simply did what they were told and had no concept of self-government and freedom. Those colonists would have agreed with “M” in that, as long as they were “safe and comfortable” they were “free.” History reveals this truth.
You cannot explain freedom to those people, and surely what our Founders believed and said would have made NO sense to people in Canada and Mexico during 1776. The proof is in the pudding today: Canada and Mexico no more understand freedom today than people like “m” do. What an effective brain-washing job Socialists/Communists over the century have done to Americans.
I say, for all of you who believe in freedom and believe as our founders did that all freedom comes from Nature and Nature’s God, then I say focus your attention on your State legislators to make your state a free place to live, even if that means cutting the dead weight of federal ties who are content with nothing but absolute power and people like “m” who are satisfied with voluntary slavery as long as he has a place to live in, a meal to eat, and tv to watch.
By Wish I was in Montana on 04-10-09
MT - You are completely correct in your post above. There is no argument or point that can be made to change the minds of people like “m”.
Sorry, Montana folks, but I think you may soon see an influx of like minded citizens like myself. Liberals have made my home state the most heavily taxed, regulated and one of the most violent states to live in. I’ve simply had enough. The liberals can have it for all I care.
By MT Bound on 04-10-09
Like “Wish” above, MT Bound is literally MT Bound, because MT is one of the only states left who understands freedom—although there are still many in MT who do not. My observation is that at least a majority of Montanans love freedom and at the very least understand that you cannot have freedom without the ability to protect freedom—guns, etc. So to you in Montana, I humbly request to board your ship, so that you can have one more MT citizen who understands freedom and who will join you in your efforts to protect it.
By mooseberryinn on 04-10-09
be careful, there are weak people here now who expect the gov’t to “take care of them”, and “protect them” and they believe anything they’re told with out checking the facts. keep your guns hidden [as well as your identity].
By grannysgadgets on 04-10-09
I see many postings of those that want to move to Montana. Now my only request is to understand alot of us do relish our freedom, we are neighborly, but not intrusive ( we appreciate neighbors that go about their own day) . Our tractors are loud, our livestock smell, roads get blocked by large machinery, and cattle drives, we have open burning seasons, you may occasionally here a gun shot ( dont mean someones been murdered) people drive around with rifles in their gun racks even though it is not hunting season (usaully a dog is seated next to them, or in the back of the truck) We prefer a introduction, and would appreciate you coming and talking to us if theres a problem instead of calling the law. We love our outdoors, and like to have a little nook to ourselves when we are out there ( most dont like another camp set up right next to them). I think if you can appreciate Montana for what it is, and the people that have their western ways instilled in them, if you can live within, or amongst and not try to change it, and as was said above be like minded , then I think many of us would not mind a new neighbor !
By Wish I was in Montana on 04-10-09
granny - Ahh, the sound of gunfire in the morning. I can’t speak for “MT Bound”, but from everything you describe I would fit right in. Where I’m at now, people are on an endless crusade to get your firearms.
I love the outdoors and done lots of fishing in my days but not hunted yet. Always wanted to though.
Thought about moving to Spokane, have family there, but it has too many liberal constituents in Seattle. Then thought about Idaho. Montana sounds really good right now.
By Cowgirl up on 04-10-09
I think like granny does…if you can live within, or amongst and NOT try to CHANGE it, and as was said above be like minded, I would not mind a new neighbor.
By mitch on 04-10-09
There is a lot of what Granny says that I do not agree with. However, the above post was excellent. That is what makes us true Montanan’s, is this shared belief of don’t try to change us, don’t belittle us, and most of all, don’t try to shove your beliefs down our throats. We all have the rights to our own beliefs and when you insist we are wrong, you are only making fools of yourselves. One thing I must add is this. Respect. Respect for your neighbors, your fellow workers, and whoever else you encounter in your day’s travels. “Wish I were in Montana”? I’m glad you’re not. That’s stupidity. None of us wishes to wake to “gunfire in the morning.”
By grannysgadgets on 04-10-09
Mitch : Ahhhh yes I forgot to add the *respect part !*Thanks for completing it for me !
By Wish I was in Montana on 04-10-09
Mitch - That was my lame.attempt at humor. Sorry if I offended you.
By P. Rockwell on 04-11-09
I am only paramoind because “they” are after me.
By fande3rls on 04-11-09
Go montana go ,they truely understand the 2nd amendment.
SIGN THE BILL GOVENOR SIGN THE BILL
By B.K. on 04-12-09
If something that can kill another person needs to be regulated by state and federal levels, then what do you do to stop the people who use common items like metal piping, bombs from household chemicals, people who drive automobiles, or somebody who owns a common pocket knife? I say go for it and sign the bill. This country needs an example of what is allowable within one’s own state.
By mike on 04-12-09
I am seriously thinking of packing my business and my bags and coming to Montana, Our beautiful country is being turned upside down where good is evil and evil is good. God bless Montana and God help America
By GuyinNM on 04-12-09
a late entry for Shooterbob made on 04/07:
I wouldn’t try taking the legal length lock blade through airport security unless you like having bore scopes shoved in undesirable places - you can’t even take a finger nail clipper aboard! Just trying to save you some hassle if you fly somewhere (I fly more than I care for).
as for the rest of you MT folks: This is a great idea - it seems you folks have a penchant for hatching ideas like this and the good ones have a way of spreading (remember I Can’t Drive 55?). Keep it up. been to your state many times - love it and the people there. NM’s not too bad but if there’s ever an opening for a UHV systems design engineer, I’ll relocate in a heart beat….....
By StuckinIL on 04-12-09
As a native MT transplanted to Illinois, I find it very gratifying that my home state is leading the way in protecting the 2nd Amendment. The contrast with here in IL is appalling! Chicagoland area legislators have a stranglehold on the state, and use it to grandstand in front of the cameras promoting always stricter gun laws. The fact that banning guns in Chicago for a decade hasn’t worked is ignored, and they just keep trying to ban everthing from Foir gras & trans fats, to dog poop, all the while coniving how best to ensconce their famlies as politcal heirs. The anit gun mantra is just a tool they use to foster paranoia and deflect scrutiny. I can only hope that what MT is doing will somehow enlighten other states like IL to some of the amend some of their idiotic laws.God I miss Montana!
By Papaw on 04-13-09
Good for Montana. There are still a several states where the 2nd Amendment is supported by its citizens and politicians. When it come right down to it, most of the anti-gun laws across the US are un-Constitutional and the ATF are nothing more that thugs enforcing these un-Constitutional laws.
By Talyn on 04-13-09
I love it when a state stands up for states rights,and protects it’s citizens and industry.Montana sounds like a sane place to live,just like Texas.
By Arnold on 04-14-09
I’d be a little careful when inviting everyone to move to Montana. As soon as they get there, they will start demanding a streetlight on every block, a police station on every corner and a fire station every other block just like they had back in the big city. That’s what they did in Virginia and now you can’t even see the stars at night.
By Steve on 05-10-09
Because of this bill in Montana, I am contacting my state rep and senator here in Ohio tomorrow to push them to sponsor a similar bill in Ohio. I have contacted the NRA-ILA for assistance in legally drawing a petition for people to sign. If you think this is something that you passionate about, I urge everyone to do this.
By Toni Tidwell on 05-16-09
They’ve already altered our air. Heard about chem trails? They’ve taken care of the water too, by putting floride in it. . . not because it helps whiten your teeth, either. Yeah, our government has been “weakening” us for years now.
By Jerry M. Brinkman on 05-30-09
If this passes, I will strongly be inclined to move to Montana. At least God still exists in the U.S, somewhere!!! As a former Certified NRA Instructor,[18 yrs] among other employment files, I would hope my bonafieds would enable me to become a welcome newcomer to your beautiful state.
By JB on 05-30-09
This bill passed some time ago, Jerry, and is now law. Just do a google search for “Montana HB246”.
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