Comments on: Obama, Get Real on the Assault Weapons Ban
By Kate on 03-25-09
If there are two people in a room and one of them has a gun, they are not equal. The one with the gun has all the “rights”, even the right to decide “life and death”. The Constitution says all “men” are created equal. It puts the rest of us in the position of having to get a gun so we can maintain our equality.
I am very tired of Gun Owners demanding their rights to guns. I don’t want to live on this level. It’s time this county looked at this issues realistically.
By raf on 03-25-09
Assault weapons…..came from the assault like in Army Assult weapons that have made it into the sporting goods market. If I lived in any large city in the USA….I’d be against them too. Crime in large cities is rampant for sure. Why…cause many people have lost hope of doing better. They drop out of school, play worthless sports (basketball), can’t read, can’t talk better than a 4th grader, have lots of tattos, and using a gun is their only answer.
There are many loopholes in the current gun laws…...like for mentally ill people from one state to another state…....get what you want. If one can get a fake ID for Social Security or a state drivers license and the FEDS can’t control that simply problem…...how are more restrictions going to help.????
As for me….on assault weapons…...BAN the multi-magazine Army look alike multi-shot rifles in the BIG CITIES…..let the crooks drive to a small town…....where it “should” be harder to get a gun of any kind from a normal gun shop keeper. Also…..in closing the USA is one of the largest SELLERS of weapons in the world…..military weapons sold to SO-SO governments just to make some wacko dictator happy for that month. Did you see the weapons for sale in the Afgan area on TV last week…...lots of stolen loot for sale out in the open air markets over there….....the latest in technology for sale to people on the street in the Afgan area.
By Brittanicus on 03-25-09
Speaker Nancy Pelosi will be well remembered for many issue, when she come up for re-election?
The Senators involved in the killing of E-Verify are using the excuse that funding was removed because, it was holding up the enactment of the Stimulus package. Compared to the other provisions, E-Verify was hardly what you could call pork? Sen. Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s credence just doesn’t wash? It was a secret deliberate, treacherous act insisted upon by the business communities.
Even though the Stimulus was crammed with earmarks, they zeroed in on the the amendment that Sen. Sessions tried to bring to the floor. It’s obvious to most Americans that the 50 Democrats had no intentions of allowing E-Verify to stay in place. Cannot even imagine the livid expressions when these legislators, found out it was still funded until September. The special interest lobby must have been equally furious.
Time THE PEOPLE set these good-for-nothings right and demand a—PERMANENT law. If our politicians really wanted to hunt down millions of illegal foreign nationals being hired by unscrupulous employers, they would have enacted E-Verify. E-Verify would give Immigration enforcement sharp teeth? Who do these politicians think they work for, when 10 million American are jobless?
Thousands of Americans have called Washington at: 202-224-3121 President Obama Switchboard: 202-456-1414/ The facts at JUDICIALWATCH, NUMBERSUSA, CAPSWEB.
By Gregg on 03-25-09
Dear Kate,I believe you are refering to criminals with guns. The good guys will protect you not take away your rights.
Gregg
By littlehawk12 on 03-25-09
kate it dossnt matter what you are tired of .the 2nd amendment is not debatable.IT IS THE LAW!YOU dont like it,LEAVE>great article wild bill..
By K on 03-25-09
I’m six five, 260 lbs of solid oak. Most people, unless they’re Olympic Class Wrestlers are not equal in a room with me. Certainly, you would be like a knat that I would squish with 1 fingie. You’re argument about as logical as animals like deer should rent claws cause the grizzlies are so big and powerful. Who said the grand equalizer is the firearm? One night, when the big bad rapist comes slithering through your bedroom window..dial 911 or reach for your S&W.
By apatriot on 03-25-09
Bill, thank you. Kate, I think you should check on crime stats from countrys that banned guns from civialians. I will fight any gun ban of any type with my life if I have to. The second ammendment is unalienable right, just as your first is to spout your left wing diaria. I also will exercise my first ammendmant right to tell you and everyone who thinks or I should say ‘feels’ the way the way you do to go lay down by your dish and lick yourself and shut up!
By Mark on 03-25-09
Kate,Canada might be a really good option for you to research and even move too. They are more stringent on their gun laws and here is a newsflash for you… If a person wants to take a life, they have many other options in doing so other than firearms. It is easy to blame guns for the ills of criminals instead of enforcing the laws that are currently on the books already.
By kris on 03-25-09
Gun control does nothing to stop what is essentially human criminal behavior. Until we hold criminals responsible and quit blaming inanimate objects nothing will change. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution. I will do so with my life also if need be.
By Rawhide on 03-25-09
Bill, I don’t share your optimism about Obama being unlikely to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. In fact I suspect he has told his A.G. Erick Holder to expand the former AWB to include many more firearms. For evidence of this, look at what Secretary of State Hilary Clinton said just today in Mexico. She declared that we in the U.S. share responsibility for Mexico’s drug war violence because U.S. made assault weapons are crossing the border into Mexico to support Mexico’s crime wave. So, according to Hilary, it’s our fault.
By george on 03-25-09
I guess you never had a gun put to your face. I did and I walked away with my life. We need to give crimminals longer sentences when a gun is used. Asault weapons are for the Military, because they are capable of having a selector fire system (Full Auto). Guns are American as Apple pie. Well Kris, I think a gun can stop a crimminal take a few off the street and they will stay away from your neighborhood and maybe think twice about robbing some one.
By Rawhide on 03-25-09
Hilary and Obama’s statements today about U.S. responsibility for Mexican border violence: Clinton: “Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers and civilians.” ...“I feel very strongly we have a co-responsibility.”
Obama himself said: “That’s part of what’s financing their operations. That’s part of what’s arming them. That’s what makes them so dangerous. And this is something that we take very seriously and we’re going to continue to work on diligently in the months to come.”
By littlehawk12 on 03-25-09
keep drinkin your kool-aid rawhide.you still believe everything the socialist facist back east tells you.i really do feel sorry for people like you that believe everything your liar box tells you.the fact is that AWs are not manufactured here and they are imported through such places as brazil and venezuela.from such places as china and russia ..nice try .hope you will wake up!
By littlehawk12 on 03-25-09
hey george the 2 nd amendment says, right to bear arms ,does not specify what kind..means i can have a tank if i really want one
By Rawhide on 03-25-09
littlehawk12: You missed my point. I believe Obama and Hilary use the argument that “Mexico’s guns are coming from the U.S.” to try to justify placing more restrictions on the production and sale of guns IN the U.S. It doesn’t matter where the guns are made, and I suspect their claim is really a lot of nonsense. Drug cartels can buy their weapons by the thousands directly from the manufacturer. Obama and Hilary’s position is merely another excuse to further restrict firearms in the U.S. Anyone who doesn’t believe our government can easily disarm all Americans in short order, should think again. How useful will your guns be if you can no longer buy bullets, or the powder and primers to reload your own. Think about it. Littlehawk12, if you still think I’m a “socialist facist” sympathizer, then you need to watch what you’re drinking.
By littlehawk12 on 03-25-09
my apolgies raw hide.i never claimed to be perfect.it is cause all these wackos tend to drive us nuts.i will pray for them…
By kate on 03-25-09
So after looking over these comments and everything the gun rights folks have to say, the “hunting issue” is really just a facade. I thought so. I wonder what the hunting permits/licenses to gun number ratio is. Bet it shows that the hunting issue is just one more thing for the “Gun Rights People” to hide behind.
By littlehawk12 on 03-25-09
so after looking at the blind folds over your eyes KaTE it is no wonder that you still cant see…that hunting and fishing is a right !!!not a privelage.chargiing americans to do these things is not constitutional it is criminal.technically your words on this issue are treasonist.
By JB on 03-25-09
One undeniable fact about the threat of AWB reinstatement is the increase in not only firearms (as Wild Bill noted) but also the sales of ammunition. Go into any gun shop in the Flathead Valley (for that matter, anywhere in the state) or sporting goods section of your local Wal-Mart and you will see bare ammo shelves, or at the very least, shelves with ammunition from not so popular calibers, and not a whole lot of that. The number of concealed weapon permits have skyrocketed in the last 12 months alone. Can you see this and tell me that there is trust in the government not to reinstate the AWB from progunners? I think not.Kate, pro-gun lobbys are not hiding behind anything. We have lots and lots of statistics that prove beyond a doubt that there is no significant increase in gun-related violent crime, let alone accidental deaths where a firearm is involved, but where there are restrictive gun laws, the crime rate is the highest in the country. Case in point: Washington, DC (Wild Bill even mentioned this one in the article, if you even read it). Now let’s take this further and talk about a little town in Georgia that requires a firearm in each home BY LAW. This little town has the lowest crime rate in the nation…why? Because no criminal in his right mind would try to break in any house in that town and risk getting shot!!
By JB on 03-25-09
One thing Wild Bill didn’t go into was H.R. 45, also known as “Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act.” This particular measure calls for a prohibitively restrictive licensing and registration scheme of ALL firearms, sold or unsold, but that is only the tip of the iceberg. Fortunately, this measure has no co-sponsors, so it will in all likelihood fall by the political wayside, but that could certainly change if the political winds were to blow towards favoring it. For now, this may not get any attention at all in the light of all the financial scandal and economic upheaval the country is going through right now (props for Wild Bill noticing this one).
By littlehawk 12 on 03-25-09
withdrawl your consent ..who cares what a bunch of facist back east do or say.they are un constitutional.they disobey all the laws this country is founded upon,.!why should i follow theirs?????????
By my sons wont die on foreign ground on 03-26-09
to kate One of my sons served in Iraq and fought to keep this Country free for people like you who dont believe in the rights of its citizens I will not let another son follow in the same foot steps for the likes of people like you. if they die it will be fighting in our homeland to save our home land from this unjust government .
By Rawhide on 03-26-09
Regarding a shortage of ammo in the store, even law enforcement agencies have had a difficult time finding enough small arms ammo for there agency needs. This shortage began occurring about 8 or 9 years ago. I’m not sure if the war in Iraq was the reason (a popular belief back then), or if restrictions may have been placed on companies producing the ammo. It would be interesting to know if retailers are still having trouble acquiring adequate quantities to stock their shelves.
By JB on 03-26-09
Rawhide, as far as I know, the situation has gone from bad to worse on small arms ammo - even 22 LR is in short supply!! There was even a shortage of Form 4473 due to firearms demand - now ATF has approved an e-copy of the form available only to FFL holders/dealers. I think there were a combination of reasons affecting ammo supply - rumors that DOD was buying up all of the 7.62x39 for use by Iraqi forces, to suppressing sales of used .223 military brass (which has since been lifted). I really don’t see the situation improving, at least in the long term.
By JB on 03-26-09
I meant that I really don’t see the ammo shortage situation improving in the short term…sorry about that 
By usawolf3 on 03-26-09
kate read the 2nd and show me one word about hunting in it…commie
By another packing female on 03-26-09
Kate,Have you lived here all your life or have you had people always surrounding you? Moving around to different states has opened my eyes to the weirdos out there. I never carried a gun (I do hunt) until I started taking mtn walks. Since I go alone more times than with family or friends, I was told to get a concealed weapons permit. I take my gun EVERY where with me now. My kids even ask when we see strange things going on if I have my gun on me. One never knows when you have to protect yourself. Are you scare of them?
By Cowgirl up on 03-26-09
Ammo really got in short supply right after Obama was elected. I could not even find any for my rifle for two weeks, and the clerk at Wal-Mart they were selling out right after each delivery. And btw JB…your right about that little town in Georgia…and nobody that lives there plans to give up any guns. I have no faith in the government to protect me anymore…I’ll do that myself.
By littlehawk12 on 03-26-09
see ya at the gun show tomorrow.cowgirl ur
By littlehawk12 on 03-26-09
apologies cow girl up!im not the best typist in the world. im used to working with my hands_ not typing..
By Tonkah on 03-27-09
The former first lady Clinton said in a BBC article on 3/26 that “we need to reinstate the assault weapons ban”. She then proceeded to apologize to the Mexican government stating that “the ban on drugs in America didn’t work”. Now, I don’t split atoms in my free time but doesn’t this blatantly contradictory brand of double-speak prove that prohibitions don’t work? How high an opinion the folks in Washington must have of America, always willing to scape-goat us at every opportunity, for every conceivable problem across the globe. As if mexican mafia would come here and pay these high a** prices
By Tyrone on 03-27-09
Where are all the brady drones?
Are they still out celebrating all the shootings that illegally armed felons have done recently?
Since felons have been killed, is the Brady Campaign for the prevention of gun violence against criminals working on more legislation to disarm law abiding citizens? None of their legislation affects, or imposes enhanced penalties against criminals or gangs using a gun in the commission of a crime.
By grannysgadgets on 03-27-09
I’ve seen bare shelves as well in the ammo department…...... Heck I’ve seen alot of bare empty slots at the gun counters as well, not to mention reloading dies and the like. I dont understand what part of ” Shall NOT be infringed” people do not understand. If you choose not to own a gun, fine and dandy with me, BUT dont point your finger in my direction and try to say I should not have one either.
By JB on 03-27-09
Cowgirl, you’re not the only one - several months ago, I saw this coming, and stocked up while ammo was plentiful for all of my rifles. Now I grab ammo whenever I can, as people seem to be buying it as soon as it comes off the truck into the store. This is just to keep myself in good supply. The standard popular pistol calibers (9mm, .45, etc.) are getting harder and harder to find. Fortunately, I own a couple of oddball caliber handguns, but even those are hard to find as well.
By grannysgadgets on 03-27-09
Littlehawk…..... Wheres the gun show at ?? I did’nt hear of one going on this week !
By littlehawk12 on 03-27-09
fairgrounds i think.just fixin to call and find out when i got your message.
By littlehawk12 on 03-27-09
it is at the fairgrounds in kalispell 12 pm ..4 to 5$ admission…
By grannysgadgets on 03-27-09
that is going to go on all weekend right ?
By littlehawk12 on 03-27-09
yeh but if you want ammo you better go today.
By grannysgadgets on 03-27-09
LOL I hear ya there ! But sadly I will have to wait till the weekend =0( Leave some ammo for me ! Thanks for the info littlehawk !
By Jamie on 03-27-09
I will admit up front I don’t get the need or appeal of assualt rifles, etc. I do however believe in the need for guns for hunting and personal protection. I feel that if I supported the ban on assual style guns that my guns would be next…
Leave our guns alone!
By James on 03-27-09
C’mon people…..wake up. When will these politicians that think they make the laws realize that its ONLY the operator of such said ANY kind of potential weapon that would do harm to humans that is to be held responsible..?? Same old argument for years….someone wants to ban something that they think should be, while avoiding so many other more important issues.Would you ban the use of cars because of so many accidents involving death OR the potential of such to happen.?
MY SOLUTION—- Leave the guns alone for the citizenry until you can gaurantee every law abiding American citizen that the threat for ANY type of terrorist or similar action won’t ever happen again on our homeland soil.!
By littlehawk12 on 03-27-09
remember 9-11.i guess we shuld ban airplanes too.
By grannysgadgets on 03-27-09
Just a slight peek into the world we are living in now….....These are all out there in the news, on the web, everywhere
New world order, the elitist, socialisim, revelations, end of world prophecys, revelution, civil unrest, police states, martial law, border wars, terrorist attacks, seceding from the union, tax revolts, tea partys, North Korea launch, China wanting U.S. to switch to a new world monetary system, trillions of dollars being printed, in debt trillions to other countries, dollar devaluing, inflation, deflation, recession, depression. Theres even more out there, I’m just tired of typing, and it is actually a very depressing list !
My mind set is that GOD FORBID anything should come of any of it…...... It is my deepest hope that it is ALL BS, I want the America I grew up in for my kids, grandkids, and the generations to come…....... The question is will it be ? Is there a guarantee ??
I only know that at this point and time there is no way that I will find myself unarmed, unable to defend myself or my loved ones when these are the articles, the news, the blogs that are out there today ! NO WAY !
God bless all of us, and God bless AMERICA !
By JAMES on 03-27-09
When it comes to my safety or that of another, when I put my life on the line WITHOUT any means of defending myself should a terrorist attack have occurred 3 days after 9-11 took place at my workplace which just happened to be an International airport’s airfield environment…..I’ll use ANY means I can find to defend myself OR this country’s safety.NO president or other politician will dictate to me what type of weapon might be available including an assault rifle to do such a task. Obama didn’t put his life on the line for the safety of all others while traveling through this airport as I and my colleages did, so he doesn’t have the right to tell me what or what I cannot use to defend this country or the public’s safety in times of extreme circumstances.
I didn’t see Obama’s name in the roll calls of WW1, WW2, the Korean conflict, Vietnam, Desert Storm/Desert Shield, or the Iraqi conflict (my apologies if I missed anyone else) so I doubt very seriously he doesn’t know what its like to try and defend this country’s interests like many other of us “mere citizens”. If anything he and his buddies should be thanking their lucky stars for our men and women in uniform…...and how they sacrifice for all of us, INCLUDING the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights.
Shame on a mess like the Blair-Holt Firearms Act of 2009….sounds like a Dogmatic Socialist idea to me..!!
By JB on 03-27-09
My take…guns are a politically easy mark for those looking to take power from the people and put it in the hands of a select few. As long as a free people are able to protect themselves and what/whom they care about from oppression and tyranny, we will remain free.
By MT Born on 03-28-09
I have a question for you, Kate, and if you would, please answer. Do know how to properly operate a gun? Have you ever held a gun?
It has been my observation that the vast majority of those for gun control, actually know very little about them. Perhaps you could get someone to teach you. I have never met anyone who knows how to properly operate a gun say “Oh my God, this thing scares the hell out of me!
You reminded us that “all men were created equal”. I totally agree, but some people, although created equal turn bad. And, I will guarantee you, bad people can find a gun if they want one. If I ever find myself in a life threatening situation with someone holding a gun, I do want to be on an at least an equal level.
Recent local headlines have been about several tragic automobile accidents. Perhaps we should ban cars. Another example; advocates against gambling would like to see casinos outlawed. Well, what’s the difference? If a person is obese and has a problem with overeating, then maybe we should close down all of the restaurants. Hopefully you get the point.
By Ryan on 03-28-09
@george
I think you were supportive of gun rights but I just wanted to set you straight on your ‘full auto’ comment. Full auto weapons are already very heavily regulated, must be purchased at great expense (~$10,000+), and cannot be made from converted semi-auto weapons. They must be original manufactured full-auto and if memory serves, made before 1980-something (therefore of limited supply).
The rifles under threat of a renewed ban are semi-auto only. One pull of the trigger, one shot only. They shoot various calibers that are also used in bolt-action, lever action and non-military looking semi-autos. The difference is *cosmetic*. They may be black, they may have a pistol grip (which Harry Reid laughably said made them more dangerous because they could be fired from the hip—try it sometimes, it’s almost impossible to hit anything), and yes, they have detachable magazines.
Let’s debunk the high capacity magazine thing too. I guess the argument against hi-cap mags is that a criminal or crazy can kill more people more quickly with 30 rounds in his rifle as opposed to 10. In a free state like Montana, it would probably make little difference since likely someone carrying would try to stop them. If this happened in a place like California or in a place in Montana that prevents carry, then they would be free to kill until the police arrive 10+ minutes later. I can tell you that in ten minutes anyone can fire many hundreds of rounds, changing 10 round magazines all the while. Hell, without anyone else armed to stop them, they could even stop to reload magazines.
I support HB228, the NRA, and the 2nd.
By JB on 03-28-09
JAMES, I wouldn’t worry too much about Blair-Holt (HR45); fortunately it has no sponsorship and will most likely just fall by the wayside due to lack of support in the House.
By Ron on 03-29-09
LA Mayor, Sen. Feinstein, Sheriff Baca etc. all grandstanding vilifying semi-auto weapons/pushing hard for total national bans in response to 4 cops shot in Oakland. Of course never any mention of the numerous open markets all over the planet selling weapons- heavy artillery, Stinger Missiles, C4, all kind of fully auto. I would hope that some of you with private jet if you haven’t yet, take a week off and make purchases with mindset of preparing for war. Evil has totally drenched shills focused on castrating our American Spirit. I respectfully request all law men to arrest any and all persons shouting out illegal orders to disarm citizens. Pains me to no end to see sworn persons conducting unconstitutional acts…I know, I know..man’s gotta eat and pay the bills..but, unfortunately…we all lose as new legislation and continued “bailouts” expand.
By Angie on 03-29-09
Anyone who thinks that any kind of ban or law limiting guns will make them disappear from the hands of criminals is a fool.
“Kate”, the problem with your argument is what are you going to do when you and your law abiding neighbors have no guns and someone who does decides to invade your home? If you choose to not have a weapon to defend yourself, that is your right, but dont take my right to defend my family away.
You need to live in south Central LA for a month and then come back and tell us what you think.
By HF Davidson on 03-29-09
An assault weapon can be used just as effectively to stop one as perpetrate one. If this economy gets much worse, you’re liable to see more riots and violent crime than ever before. If you’re barricaded in your home or business in the middle of a riot trying to protect your property and family from Glock carrying looters, you’re going to wish you had more than a bolt action hunting rifle. And Kate, who the f… told you the second amendment was ever about hunting??? Watch this video of a woman who’s been there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis&feature=related
By HF Davidson on 03-29-09
Or… if you’re more in the Ron Paul camp than Penn & Teller, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbq—pFYcLw&feature=related
By Cowgirl up on 03-29-09
Hey Littlehawk and Granny…guess I saw ya at the gun show…just did not know which ones you were!I think we might have to outlaw rocks, spears, blowguns and even lipstick…they can all be used to kill. I’m with you Granny…GOD BLESS AMERICA!
BTW…does anyone know when the president had to have served in the military changed?
By littlehawk12 on 03-29-09
dont forget the tylenol.
By Emily on 03-29-09
Reading these postings and the utter stupidity here shows the real dumbing down of America…and I thought it was a generational thing. It’s obviously a Flathead Valley thing. I thought I had just ventured into West, VA. They are by far alot smarter and sophisticated compared to you imbeciles and I’m in high-school.
By JB on 03-29-09
That’s really amusing Emily. So tell me, do you believe what you see on television, or what your teachers try to teach you…that you need to study hard so that you can find a good job and be a corporate slave? Or are they making you study so hard that you don’t have original thoughts? Just leave the keyboard alone and go back to your mommy and daddy’s television, there’s a good little drone
By grannysgadgets on 03-30-09
Cowgirl, and Littlehawk….. I got there at the end =0( Had to pick up the boys coming home from Iraq !!!! Great to have them back here safely, and in one piece !!!!!!!So we were probably at the same gun show at differant times =0) It’s alright we have the next one coming up in Missoula ! ( there was still a few goodys left) Whats up with all this snow ? At this rate wont get to plant the dang garden until June ! LOL
Cowgirl : Laws are being changed and also dissapearing so fast I cant even keep up !
Anyhow take care, gonna go back to reading all the headline news, and shake my head again and again…... As I said before this is no time to let anyone dally in the 2nd !
By Ryan on 03-30-09
@EmilyI doubt you appreciate the irony of using your 1st Amendment right to insult patriots that support the 2nd Amendment.
@grannygadgets
Please relay my thanks and gratitude to those boys. Emily will someday realize that they put their lives on the line for her freedoms.
By mitch on 03-30-09
Hi Emily! It’s nice to actually see a poster on here that has a mind of their own. Keep up the good work. My thoughts are that most of these who rant and rave do not work, and obviously haven’t had much of an education, nor to they seem to want to improve themselves in the education dept. A lot of paranoia and conspiracy theories. They repeat the same tireless phrases over and over and over.
By Ryan on 03-30-09
@mitch
Typical liberal elitist attitude to assume that anyone that has a differing view is ignorant and uneducated. You do not have any way to know what level of education and intelligence these folks have. I guess your assumption is that they were never exposed to the liberal indoctrination of our ‘education’ systems as opposed to those who are educated but didn’t drink the Kool-Aid. I have a very good job and a degree (summa cum laude). If you grow tired of the debate and the ‘tireless phrases’, don’t step up to the podium. If you want to keep debating, try using facts.
By grannysgadgets on 03-30-09
Ryan :I will pass the word on to them !!! They love their constitution, and have sworn the oath to uphold it, as all do that join the armed forces. This was their second tour of Iraq.
Some are never grateful for what another sacrafices for them, they only take and ask for more….. But that is alright Ryan, we do not pick and choose which American recieves what right, they are ours by birth, and protected by those that so choose to defend it !
By mitch on 03-30-09
Oh good! We didn’t have to wait long for an example. Name calling =“Typical liberal elitist attitude”
overused phrases = “didn’t drink the Kool-Aid”
I love a good debate, but only with someone who has an original idea. My favorite phrase=
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln
16th president of US (1809 - 1865) “
Now there’s one you don’t see on here everyday.
By Cowgirl up on 03-30-09
Granny…please add my thanks to the boys…and I’m glad they got home safe. Hope my boy comes home safe and sound! It’s his first tour.
By Eric on 03-30-09
Hey Cowgirl, I’m certain that it would not be easy to pick out Littlehawk12, Granny at the gunshow. Like most of the lunnies there, they have no brains and no teeth and I’m certain was wearing commando boots and camoflauge.
By littlehawk12 on 03-30-09
it is easy to know you are on the LOSING SIDE ERIC because you dont have enough intelligence to debate topics without being insulting.
By Eric on 03-30-09
Oh, LH12….you call your babble…intelligent? Get real buddy.
By 2009 on 03-30-09
Littlehawk12- you IDIOT-thats all you have done on this board is insult people! Why don’t you get a job you LOSER! Everyone, just ignore GOOFYHAWK!
By Rawhide on 03-30-09
Emily: Your comment was one of the smarter ones I’ve read today.The purpose of education is (should be) to teach one how to think objectively and analytically. Not much of what you read in the paper or see on TV will meet those standards. We should all strive to be independent thinkers, not just followers.
By littlehawk12 on 03-30-09
sounds like someone lost their BaBa.
By Amy on 03-30-09
Sounds like someone doesn’t have a job!! LOL at littlehawk12!!!
By littlehawk12 on 03-30-09
i am a full time college student diddohead.
By James on 03-30-09
Its amazing to read comments from the likes of people with names like ‘Emily’ and ‘Eric’...I’m sure their intelligence will take them far in this life. Unfortunately we have to respect their opinions right or wrong, but we don’t have to give in to their way of thinking.LOVE the folks in Montana and the Flathead Valley region. I’m not from there but I can tell you for a fact that the spirit and hospitality of these western Americans are the BEST that I’ve encountered in 44 years of traveling and vacationing in your state. Not a day goes by that I wouldn’t ever consider giving my life for yours in such a beautiful geographical area.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND MONTANA TOO..!!
By littlehawk12 on 03-30-09
with a handle like slum lord.who would listen to you?thanks for serving James.
By too hey 2009 on 03-30-09
is that the year you were born.
By littlehawk12 on 03-30-09
by the way eric.dont forget that us gun toters have you rejects outnumbered a 1000 to 1.those aint good odds dude.
By Eric on 03-30-09
Opps! Littlehawk12, you’re College Education is showing!
By littlehawk12 on 03-30-09
grannysgadgets.please tell the men i said thanks for serving.and welcome home.hope they can stay this time.
By Cowgirl up on 03-30-09
Eric…I was at the gunshow…I have teeth and was dressed in a suit. I also have a degree that I worked very hard to obtain. BTW…I also wore high heels…not boots.
By Saint Shiela on 03-30-09
Hey cowgirl… it’s funny how everyone assumes that women who carry guns are always boot wearing she-men. If I am wearing a dress and can’t use my ankle holster, you better believe I’ve got my .38 in my Gucci purse! I will continue to do so no matter what law changes the Obama administration makes. Who knows if/when I will run into “undesirables” and have to defend myself, my property, or my family.
I also think it is funny how many (not all) liberals assume people who carry guns or who are gun right advocates are uneducated. I’ve got a bachelor’s degree from a large university, I served my country in the armed forces for over 6 years, and now I work in a nice office building with a great view making enough money to own a house in Whitefish. Believe me, I’m not trying to toot my own horn. It took a lot of hard work to get where I am. I just want to illustrate that I’ve done all the above things and have owned semi-automatic guns the entire time.
By Saint Shiela on 03-30-09
Oh, and I am not the only one in this state or this country who has their stuff together that owns a couple of guns. We are all over!!!!!
By esotericx10 on 03-31-09
The founding fathers of this nation didn’t make provisions in the Bill of Rights regarding gun ownership for hunters and sportsmen.Those provisions were made because our founding fathers had the wisdom and foresight to realize that ANY government could become corrupt and tyrannical, including ours!
The second amendment is what allows the people to protect themselves from a criminal, tyrannical government. The second amendment is what protects all of the other amendments Your rights don’t come from a piece of paper, they come from a higher power. The government was created to serve the interests of the people. NOT the other way around. This country was born from revolution, and from rule by consent. NO ONE should EVER allow the government to take away their rights.
Benjamin Franklin once said “anyone that gives up their liberty for their security, will soon have neither, and deserves neither.” Anyone that thinks that a tyrannical government could NEVER come into being in America, is living in a delusional fantasy land. Our founding fathers, and our fore fathers have warned us over and over that the biggest threat to us would not come from an outside threat, but from within.
Frankly, I’m a lot more fearful of the criminals in Washington D.C. then I will ever be of the criminals on the streets
By grannysgadgets on 03-31-09
Cowgirl and Littlehawk : I will pass your thanks along ! Thank you as well !Cowgirl : My prayers are with your son, and your family….. I know how hard it is to sit at home, and worry when they are so far away ! Wars are not only faught on the battlefields, they are also faught inside of our homes while we worry and wait ! How long will he be deployed ?
Eric : Thats a very mature comment, very informational, and very expressive of your personal views, and intelligence. I wont share my thoughts on how I would peg you…..... We will keep that little joke to myself !
*Cheers* To you Saint Shiela !
Could’nt agree more Esotericx10 !
By well on 03-31-09
intire wars were waged without guns, thousands died. guns dont kill people, people kill people.
By Abbama on 03-31-09
No American citizen should be allowed to own an assault weapon.
This is not about the right to bear arms which is lawful and supportable. It is about not allowing civilians to carry and use military weapons.
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
So what is an assault weapon Abbama?Airplanes,autumobiles,kitchen knives,rocks,sticks,spears,bows and,arrows?Should we ban all of these to?
By Abbama on 03-31-09
This is the kind of argument that is self defeating, Abbama. Until you define what an “assault weapon” is, your argument has absolutely no basis at all.
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
An assault weapon can be any object used to conflict injury on yourself or another person or animal.that is what common sense tells me.
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
From Wickipedia-whether or not the term “assault weapons” should even be used at all,are questions subject to considerable debate.
By Ryan on 03-31-09
A few years ago, the news created near hysteria about shark attacks through sensational reporting. It was later shown that there were actually fewer shark attacks that year than previous years. During that time, people in land locked states that never set foot in the ocean were distraught about the events. They would then decide to put their diabetes out of their minds by getting in their car and driving to McDonald’s while talking on the cell phone to their sister in Florida. On the way home, they thought they might as well stop off at the bar for a few drinks and cigarettes.
This admittedly fictitious scenario is here only to frame some 2005 CDC statistics on causes of death which can be viewed here: http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/Number of Deaths 113 Causes 2005.html
# deaths Cause
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856,030 Major cardiovascular diseases
559,312 Malignant neoplasms
217,632 All other diseases
130,933 Chronic lower respiratory diseases
75,119 Diabetes mellitus
63,001 Influenza and pneumonia
45,343 Motor vehicle accidents
42,868 Renal failure
23,618 Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances
19,656 Falls
18,526 Other and unspecified nontransport accidents
17,002 Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms
15,635 Intentional self-harm (suicide) by other and unspecified means
12,352 Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms
5,772 Assault (homicide) by other and unspecified means
789 Accidental discharge of firearms
By Cowgirl up on 03-31-09
Saint Sheila…thank you! Hopefully you made a point that will be well taken!Granny, He will be gone for 2 years…unless the powers that be decide to keep those boys longer. Thank you…yes, it’s hard.
well on…good point! You don’t need guns to kill…bare hands will also accomplish the task.
esotericx10..I agree.
littlehawk…add bare hand to your list.
By viet paul on 03-31-09
Gun control is not the answer…I can attest to that. Anything can be used as weapon. If they take away our guns, what will they take away next? Answer: Freedom
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
Bare hands?My FAVORITE!
By grannysgadgets on 04-01-09
bare hands….... hmmm boy oh boy, thats one assault weapon that I hope we dont loose !!!!!! be sitting here typing with our noses…... well unless we snub em with those, that could be assulting, or insulting…...... (The rocks ? well they can come pick those out of the fields for me, wont mind a bit !)
Cowgirl : 2 years OMG thats a loooong time !!! My heart goes out to you ! We have one week left with our boys, then they go back to their base….. Hope things calm down around the world, makes you wonder where they might be sent too next !
We also have their best friend (was their medic) he is on his way to Afghanistan for a year this month. He is a wonderful man as well ! ( ps I dont know if you have shipped care packages, or not. so you may already know this little tip. The post office has the one rate priority mail boxes that are free, and its 9.99 to ship regardless of weight !! Just cant be so over stuffed that it deforms the box at all, I had to learn that lesson the hard way =0( )
Paul : Yes, hanging on to our freedom is the root of hanging on to every thing else…...... No other way around that !
By grannysgadgets on 04-01-09
Every time our country stands in the path of danger an instinct seems to summon her finest first. Those who truley understand her. When freedom shivers in the cold shadow of true peril, it is always the patriots who first hear the call.when loss of liberty is looming, as it is now, the sirens sound first in the hearts of freedoms vanguards. The smoke in the air of our concord bridges, and pearl harbors is always smelled first by the farmers. who come from their simple homes to find the fire and fight. Because they know that sacrad stuff resides in that wooden stock and blued steel. Something that gives the most common man the most uncommon of freedoms. When ordinary hands can posses such and extraordinary instrument that symbolizes the full measure of human dignity and liberty.
Thats why those five words issue and irresistible call to us all, and we must !
SO…...... as we set out this year to defeat the divisive focres that would take freedom away…. I want to say those fighting words for everyone within the sound of my voice, to hear and to heed….
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS !!!
Charlton Heston/ NRA 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=0297_ha8zXE&feature=relatd
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