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By valley_dude on 01-08-09
um… Are you kidding me?
“hooking fish through their mouths and pulling them through the water is just as painful as hooking a cat’s mouth and dragging him or her behind a car”
hehe… personally I can’t wait for the ice to thaw so I can rip some lips!! I do practice catch and release so I won’t be dragging them behind my truck on the way home home
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By mooseberryinn on 01-08-09
I think we should start a chapter of “PETV” or people for the ethical treatment of vegetables. Afterall, tomatoes have feelings too! Hmmm, when all is “safe” forevermore - we can enjoy our ‘rock soup”. Wait! How do we know rocks don’t have feelings too? They don’t talk much ya know?
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By Laurie on 01-08-09
Now THAT is funny.
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By Big Show on 01-08-09
Those that support PETA (not me) should be upset that they spent the money for the paper and stamp to send that ridiculous letter.
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By Get in my belly on 01-08-09
PETA…...... People Eating The Animals
Did anyone tell them about the donut problem in Whitefish?
I cannot believe that Whitefish HS officials are even considering this request. Remember, these are the people that put out the comic book “Your Mommy Kills Animals” to tell young children how evil their mothers are. PETA should be disbanded for their underhanded tactics.
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By senior09 on 01-08-09
its a dawg pound, not a kitty litter!!
BULLDOG PRIDE! ...not hello kitty..
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By JD on 01-08-09
So they should change the name of the town, too. But then they’d have to change the name of the ski hill again. No problem.
Okay, people. Read the last few sentences of the article. The whole thing is a joke and the recipient of the letter is playing along.
Had me going for a minute there, too.
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By Peta-Poo-Poo on 01-09-09
this peta stuff runs every time there’s not enough graphic “news” to please the advertisers.
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By jennifer on 01-09-09
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds… Einstein.
You are all of mediocre minds!!!
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By rip_lips on 01-09-09
@jennifer - If you really think this is a good idea, you’re probably right. We have no brains at all, yet somehow your mind is so evolved and powerful you have been graced with the ability to bestow mediocrity upon the masses… “go Sea Kittens!! Claw the non-believers to death!!!“ I wish I could ask Einstein his opinion, pretty sure he ate sea kitten. I wonder if sharks think “Well, I don’t think I’ll eat that sea kitten, it might hurt them” - then they swim away to expand upon E=mc2…
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By Shill on 01-09-09
Time and money…..? Poverty in third world countries, poverty in our backyard, cancer research, aids research, children suffering, community development, clean water, conservation…..these are just a few examples of worthy causes to support and put our precious time and money into. Sea kittens…sea kittens - are you serious? Only in America do we have the time and money to waste away with organizations such PETA. Jennifer -“you are all of mediocre minds” - you seem like a really humble person. wow. The ideals of Einstein and PETA are not worthy to parallel each other - horrible quote to attach to such a mind numbing story.
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By jennifer on 01-09-09
The quote from Einstein was in reference to the fact that PETA is trying to draw attention to the continued suffering by animals and yes even fish at the hands of humans. if you know anything about Einstein he states that a vegeterian diet is best for humainty and he was against humans causing suffering of any kind to animals. I do not think that the school should change there mascot name and most likely that is not PETA’s real concern. Bringing attention to the facts about how careleslly humans cause suffering to animals is the mains goal. WAKE UP PEOPLE… all the problems we have on this earth are due to our own greed, excess and desires. THINK…..
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By Another Jen on 01-09-09
Hi Jennifer, I’m with you, these people are a bunch of flippin morons here. Einstein should be rolling over in his grave.
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By John on 01-10-09
Just remember, Einstein’s theories helped the US win the race to the first atomic bomb.
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By Paul B. on 01-11-09
It’s about time someone stood up for what’s right and we all begin putting a stop to the brutal slaughter of trout throughout the world , especially Whit***sh (can’t even write it with out tearing up). Now that this door has opened, LIBBY LOGGERS?!! I’d say don’t get me started but that ship has sailed. We need to change that name immediately and start protecting out trees. Imagine the pain they must feel as a saw guts them down. Plants have feeling too.
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By JD on 01-11-09
Yes, Paul, and then there is the insect world. Every time I see a vehicle with its front end crusty with bugs I just cry. Slow down, people, think about those poor innocent little creatures you’re smacking into.
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By Donnie on 01-11-09
Maybe we could convince PETA that plants have feelings too then they would all starve to death and be out of the gene pool for good.
Dinner time and I’m getting hungry. Think I’ll have a Kitten of the Sea Tuna Cat sandwich
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By Walley Worm on 01-11-09
I’m tired of my family being run over by cars, it’s bad enough to have to deal with the birds swooping down after us. Let alone you humans shoving a hook up our arse and drowning us in water. If you are for “PETA” please consider being for” WORM” or Worm’s Ostracize Rectal Manipulation
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By JB on 01-11-09
Mmmmm. I like tuna sandwiches…and halibut too, especially in those little squares or sticks with tartar sauce. A day without meat is like a day without sunshine…white or red. Love the sizzle of searing animal flesh in the morning…right next to fried chicken embryos crackling in the pan.
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By Paul B. on 01-11-09
Good follow ups fellow miscreants.
If you didn’t notice. the B is for Bunyan.
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By jennifer on 01-12-09
“Better to be silent and thought a fool….....then to speak and remove all doubt.“
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By redhawk on 01-12-09
Glad you cleared that up for us Jen….You Fool!
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By meaty on 01-12-09
I’d suggest PETA adopt your quote as a motto, Jennifer, then we wouldn’t have to hear any more of their ridiculous ideas. The letter to Whitefish High certainly removed any remote thought of their credibility from my mind. Sheesh, and to think a tree gave its life to provide paper for said letter.
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By Paul B. on 01-12-09
We are all evolved omnivores. Einstein was an atheist but he loved the creation of a good steak, up to about his last year of life when he became a vegetarian. He did often state he felt we shouldn’t eat meat for physical reasons and did express some undefined moral feelings about meat eating. Undefined. Did he ever speak of fish and pain? Not sure. He quit eating fish but was it just for health reasons? One will never know. Frankly, a pan fried trout with a fresh sliced tomato and some mixed wild and brown rice with a glass of wine is wonderful. Good for you too.
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By JD on 01-12-09
Sorry you can’t lighten up and join in the fun, Jennifer.
The whole thing is a joke, remember the PETA spokesman even said so. They’re just trying to cause us to think a little. And it worked. Enjoy it, okay?
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By JB on 01-12-09
Human beings were carnivores long before we became omnivores…and as long as the human race exists, there will always be many of us who enjoy the thrill of the hunt and the taste of meat.
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By Funguymon on 01-13-09
I believe contrary to your statement JB that humans were ever carnivores. The facts reveal we are herbivores at our true functions and omnivores only by choice. I highly recommend anyone who disagrees to scan these down to earth arguments from this link: http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html
I consider myself a naturalist vegetarian in which I think red and white meats do not benefit us except in times of dire survival needs. The meat exception which to me doesn’t even is a distant typical meat, is fish. I believe a healthy diet consists of fruits, vegetables, nuts, our fresh mountain fish, true raw cheese (including yogurt, kefir, and other ferments) and by personal preference, an occasional glass of fresh raw milk (which is illegal in the state of Montana).
Here is an excellent website ( http://www.realmilk.com/healthbenefits.html) as well to the benefit of raw milk over the poor quality industrialized dairy foods the “got milk” and USDA campaigns sell us. It’s a half truth.
Let us not forget the over looked importance of having fungi and bacteria in our diets (such as moderation in alcohol, kombucha, and of course our friends, the mushrooms.
Ignore those strict diets such as atkins, south beach, etc, and forget about over priced and sometimes poorly manufactured supplements and stick with what nature gave us.
My final statement to support why we don’t have to be vegan in order to not harm animals (though those who choose to certainly aren’t doing any harm), is the fact cows benefit from us gaining nutrition from their milk and in return, a cow, goat, sheep who are cared for by open range, no antibiotics, and caring farmers who provide for those animals’ needs in harmony, gain survival benefits as well.
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By Funguymon on 01-13-09
My apologies on two things:
Let me clear up my view on fish. Though fish is considered meat, I believe it is an atypical type of meat. Fish are simple when compared to other species in the animal kingdom, and they feed so many other types of species when compared to how many other animals consume cows, deer, or squirrels, etc. Fish have more positive health benefits rather than negative ones unlike cows, deer, and squirrels. There are other examples as well.
Second, I forgot to mention one of my favorite foods that comes from an animal that people tend to forget about, and that is raw honey from honey bees. The benefits there are never ending!
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By Shill on 01-13-09
Das word Paul Bunyan…. I wonder if Jennifer has any more sweet quotes for us to ponder on so we can keep this discussion rolling…?
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By JB on 01-13-09
Funguymon, your arguments sound very convincing, but I am not willing to concede that human beings should eat plants with an occasional fish thrown in. Sorry, I like meat too much…and if that is poison to me, so be it.
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By jennifer on 01-13-09
“ If you don’t stand for something, you’ll stand for anything!
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By jennifer on 01-13-09
Hey JD…..I am en-lightened by the whole discussion. I never took the “Sea-kittens name serious. What is serious is the suffering of animals at the hands of human for the over consumption of their flesh. OVER COMSUMPTION being the keyword here. Go ahead and enjoy a tuna sandwich a few times a week or even and quality beef burger. 3 times a day 7 days a week is not necessary and animals at the very least deserve to be treated with compassion and humanely. I don’t see how anyone with intelligence can argue with that….
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By Funguymon on 01-13-09
Thanks for the comment JB, though I obviously would disagree about consuming meat, we easily agree on the freedom of choice. Though I choose not to eat meat, if people like PETA made the laws, than it would be illegal. Just like the state of Montana decided I wasn’t smart enough to make my own decision on whether to consume raw milk and that they must baby sit me for my ‘own good’.
If we choose to consume good or bad, let it be our own personal choice.
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By JB on 01-13-09
Funguymon, I will always support your freedom of choice, even though we disagree about the choice. I cannot condone PETA’s tactics either; as harmless as they seem now, they have been a lot more radical in the past, They have already strained their credibility beyond imagining, in my eyes.
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By Ray on 01-14-09
Come on Jennifer, this is Montana. You have got to be kidding me. You don’t seem to understand that Montanan’s hunt and fish for the food. More times than none, freezers are full of meat that was harvested that provides for the year. Maybe you ought to go after Mother Nature since she is providing so much suffering to the wild this winter. That is just plain torture, way more than a bullet or arrow. Your agenda will never fly in Montana, maybe in Manhattan NY. Do your parents provide your income?
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By HAC on 01-14-09
Did you seriously think that the mascot name of a school would be changed just so a tiny group of people could be happy? Come on, think about it. That would be like a group of vegitarieans trying to chane PETA’s name because it has the word animal in it.
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By poop on 01-14-09
sea kittens taste good…especially with a lemon sauce drizzled over them and then broiled. TASTEY!
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By Shill on 01-15-09
mmmm…mm. m. Tastey!
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By MontanaTrace on 01-15-09
Do fish feel pain?
The world’s foremost expert on the subject is Dr. James D. Rose of the University of Wyoming. He’s spent 30 years working on questions of neurology, examining data on the responses of animals to painful stimuli. In 2003 Rose published a landmark study in the journal Reviews of Fisheries Science, concluding that animals need specific regions of the cerebral cortex in order to feel pain. And fish do not have them.
I don’t imagine animal-rights activists are very fond of Dr. Rose.
Right you are. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), for instance, operates a misleading “Fishing Hurts” propaganda campaign based on the work of a few “neutral” experts. (PETA says Dr. Rose isn’t neutral because he enjoys fishing.) One of PETA’s experts is a “Professor of Animal Welfare” who also believes it’s cruel to raise faster-growing cows and turkeys. Another is a microbiologist who claims it’s “unthinkable that fish do not have pain receptors”—despite having done no scientific work with fish—and equates our “lack of justice and compassion to other animals” with human slavery.
It’s worth noting that PETA has sought fishing bans in state parks and called for a Constitutional amendment protecting fish. In 2005 when PETA tried to scare fishermen away from their sport by claiming fish contain “poison,“ campaign director Bruce Friedrich admitted his strategy on an animal-rights mailing list: “For people who don’t care about the suffering of fish, I suspect this will terrify them into not eating them.“
What about lobsters and crabs? Do they feel pain when they’re boiled or steamed?
A 2005 Norwegian study reported that lobsters and crabs don’t have the capacity to feel pain either. The British Guardian newspaper detailed the study’s findings, explaining that lobsters and crabs have only about 100 thousand neurons. Many vertebrates have upwards of 100 billion.
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By MontanaTrace on 01-15-09
FISH DO NOT HAVE THE BRAIN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE EXPERIENCE OF PAIN OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF AWARENESS.
I can find some small merit in PITA’s positions but it’s mighty small. They’re absurd behavior kills any possible respect I could have for them.
I like my sea kitten baked or pan fried.
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By Doughnuteer on 01-15-09
After spending a lot of time on Chickens - I wouldn’t put it past the existing City Council to propose this - it would fit the rest of there agenda…................
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By C on 01-22-09
This is INSANE!!!!!!!!! peta has gone crazy. Come on Sea Kittens.
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By Andrew L on 01-22-09
For those numb-nuts who misguidedly believe that humans are naturally herbivores - go to the mirror.
Now open your mouth. Look at your teeth. You will notice a particul;ar few that are referred to as “canine teeth”.These teeth are good for nothing so much as the gripping, ripping and tearing of…[drumroll, please] MEAT.
If G_d did not mean for us to eat, he screwed up and placed the wrong kind of teeth in our mouths.
Moreover, we have both large and small intestines - which makes our digestive systems capable of processing (in addition to fruits, grains, nuts, and vegetables) MEAT.
Face biological facts: we are equipped to be omnivores - consuming meat and other natural products.
It was good of you and your underinformed, non-scientific mind(s) to give the rest of us more sensible and observant people a warm belly laugh!
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By valley_dude on 01-08-09
um… Are you kidding me?
“hooking fish through their mouths and pulling them through the water is just as painful as hooking a cat’s mouth and dragging him or her behind a car”
hehe… personally I can’t wait for the ice to thaw so I can rip some lips!! I do practice catch and release so I won’t be dragging them behind my truck on the way home home
By mooseberryinn on 01-08-09
I think we should start a chapter of “PETV” or people for the ethical treatment of vegetables. Afterall, tomatoes have feelings too! Hmmm, when all is “safe” forevermore - we can enjoy our ‘rock soup”. Wait! How do we know rocks don’t have feelings too? They don’t talk much ya know?
By Laurie on 01-08-09
Now THAT is funny.
By Big Show on 01-08-09
Those that support PETA (not me) should be upset that they spent the money for the paper and stamp to send that ridiculous letter.
By Get in my belly on 01-08-09
PETA…...... People Eating The Animals
Did anyone tell them about the donut problem in Whitefish?
By John on 01-08-09
I just made a sea kitten named Bert
http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/game.asp
By somepeopleisstupid on 01-08-09
Pain En The A$$
By JB on 01-08-09
I cannot believe that Whitefish HS officials are even considering this request. Remember, these are the people that put out the comic book “Your Mommy Kills Animals” to tell young children how evil their mothers are. PETA should be disbanded for their underhanded tactics.
By senior09 on 01-08-09
its a dawg pound, not a kitty litter!!
BULLDOG PRIDE! ...not hello kitty..
By JD on 01-08-09
So they should change the name of the town, too. But then they’d have to change the name of the ski hill again. No problem.
Okay, people. Read the last few sentences of the article. The whole thing is a joke and the recipient of the letter is playing along.
Had me going for a minute there, too.
By Peta-Poo-Poo on 01-09-09
this peta stuff runs every time there’s not enough graphic “news” to please the advertisers.
By jennifer on 01-09-09
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds… Einstein.
You are all of mediocre minds!!!
By rip_lips on 01-09-09
@jennifer - If you really think this is a good idea, you’re probably right. We have no brains at all, yet somehow your mind is so evolved and powerful you have been graced with the ability to bestow mediocrity upon the masses… “go Sea Kittens!! Claw the non-believers to death!!!“ I wish I could ask Einstein his opinion, pretty sure he ate sea kitten. I wonder if sharks think “Well, I don’t think I’ll eat that sea kitten, it might hurt them” - then they swim away to expand upon E=mc2…
By Shill on 01-09-09
Time and money…..? Poverty in third world countries, poverty in our backyard, cancer research, aids research, children suffering, community development, clean water, conservation…..these are just a few examples of worthy causes to support and put our precious time and money into. Sea kittens…sea kittens - are you serious? Only in America do we have the time and money to waste away with organizations such PETA. Jennifer -“you are all of mediocre minds” - you seem like a really humble person. wow. The ideals of Einstein and PETA are not worthy to parallel each other - horrible quote to attach to such a mind numbing story.
By jennifer on 01-09-09
The quote from Einstein was in reference to the fact that PETA is trying to draw attention to the continued suffering by animals and yes even fish at the hands of humans. if you know anything about Einstein he states that a vegeterian diet is best for humainty and he was against humans causing suffering of any kind to animals. I do not think that the school should change there mascot name and most likely that is not PETA’s real concern. Bringing attention to the facts about how careleslly humans cause suffering to animals is the mains goal. WAKE UP PEOPLE… all the problems we have on this earth are due to our own greed, excess and desires. THINK…..
By Another Jen on 01-09-09
Hi Jennifer, I’m with you, these people are a bunch of flippin morons here. Einstein should be rolling over in his grave.
By John on 01-10-09
Just remember, Einstein’s theories helped the US win the race to the first atomic bomb.
By Paul B. on 01-11-09
It’s about time someone stood up for what’s right and we all begin putting a stop to the brutal slaughter of trout throughout the world , especially Whit***sh (can’t even write it with out tearing up). Now that this door has opened, LIBBY LOGGERS?!! I’d say don’t get me started but that ship has sailed. We need to change that name immediately and start protecting out trees. Imagine the pain they must feel as a saw guts them down. Plants have feeling too.
By JD on 01-11-09
Yes, Paul, and then there is the insect world. Every time I see a vehicle with its front end crusty with bugs I just cry. Slow down, people, think about those poor innocent little creatures you’re smacking into.
By Donnie on 01-11-09
Maybe we could convince PETA that plants have feelings too then they would all starve to death and be out of the gene pool for good.
Dinner time and I’m getting hungry. Think I’ll have a Kitten of the Sea Tuna Cat sandwich
By Walley Worm on 01-11-09
I’m tired of my family being run over by cars, it’s bad enough to have to deal with the birds swooping down after us. Let alone you humans shoving a hook up our arse and drowning us in water. If you are for “PETA” please consider being for” WORM” or Worm’s Ostracize Rectal Manipulation
By JB on 01-11-09
Mmmmm. I like tuna sandwiches…and halibut too, especially in those little squares or sticks with tartar sauce. A day without meat is like a day without sunshine…white or red. Love the sizzle of searing animal flesh in the morning…right next to fried chicken embryos crackling in the pan.
By Paul B. on 01-11-09
Good follow ups fellow miscreants.
If you didn’t notice. the B is for Bunyan.
By jennifer on 01-12-09
“Better to be silent and thought a fool….....then to speak and remove all doubt.“
By redhawk on 01-12-09
Glad you cleared that up for us Jen….You Fool!
By meaty on 01-12-09
I’d suggest PETA adopt your quote as a motto, Jennifer, then we wouldn’t have to hear any more of their ridiculous ideas. The letter to Whitefish High certainly removed any remote thought of their credibility from my mind. Sheesh, and to think a tree gave its life to provide paper for said letter.
By Paul B. on 01-12-09
We are all evolved omnivores. Einstein was an atheist but he loved the creation of a good steak, up to about his last year of life when he became a vegetarian. He did often state he felt we shouldn’t eat meat for physical reasons and did express some undefined moral feelings about meat eating. Undefined. Did he ever speak of fish and pain? Not sure. He quit eating fish but was it just for health reasons? One will never know. Frankly, a pan fried trout with a fresh sliced tomato and some mixed wild and brown rice with a glass of wine is wonderful. Good for you too.
By JD on 01-12-09
Sorry you can’t lighten up and join in the fun, Jennifer.
The whole thing is a joke, remember the PETA spokesman even said so. They’re just trying to cause us to think a little. And it worked. Enjoy it, okay?
By JB on 01-12-09
Human beings were carnivores long before we became omnivores…and as long as the human race exists, there will always be many of us who enjoy the thrill of the hunt and the taste of meat.
By Funguymon on 01-13-09
I believe contrary to your statement JB that humans were ever carnivores. The facts reveal we are herbivores at our true functions and omnivores only by choice. I highly recommend anyone who disagrees to scan these down to earth arguments from this link: http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html
I consider myself a naturalist vegetarian in which I think red and white meats do not benefit us except in times of dire survival needs. The meat exception which to me doesn’t even is a distant typical meat, is fish. I believe a healthy diet consists of fruits, vegetables, nuts, our fresh mountain fish, true raw cheese (including yogurt, kefir, and other ferments) and by personal preference, an occasional glass of fresh raw milk (which is illegal in the state of Montana).
Here is an excellent website ( http://www.realmilk.com/healthbenefits.html) as well to the benefit of raw milk over the poor quality industrialized dairy foods the “got milk” and USDA campaigns sell us. It’s a half truth.
Let us not forget the over looked importance of having fungi and bacteria in our diets (such as moderation in alcohol, kombucha, and of course our friends, the mushrooms.
Ignore those strict diets such as atkins, south beach, etc, and forget about over priced and sometimes poorly manufactured supplements and stick with what nature gave us.
My final statement to support why we don’t have to be vegan in order to not harm animals (though those who choose to certainly aren’t doing any harm), is the fact cows benefit from us gaining nutrition from their milk and in return, a cow, goat, sheep who are cared for by open range, no antibiotics, and caring farmers who provide for those animals’ needs in harmony, gain survival benefits as well.
By Funguymon on 01-13-09
My apologies on two things:
Let me clear up my view on fish. Though fish is considered meat, I believe it is an atypical type of meat. Fish are simple when compared to other species in the animal kingdom, and they feed so many other types of species when compared to how many other animals consume cows, deer, or squirrels, etc. Fish have more positive health benefits rather than negative ones unlike cows, deer, and squirrels. There are other examples as well.
Second, I forgot to mention one of my favorite foods that comes from an animal that people tend to forget about, and that is raw honey from honey bees. The benefits there are never ending!
By Shill on 01-13-09
Das word Paul Bunyan…. I wonder if Jennifer has any more sweet quotes for us to ponder on so we can keep this discussion rolling…?
By JB on 01-13-09
Funguymon, your arguments sound very convincing, but I am not willing to concede that human beings should eat plants with an occasional fish thrown in. Sorry, I like meat too much…and if that is poison to me, so be it.
By jennifer on 01-13-09
“ If you don’t stand for something, you’ll stand for anything!
By jennifer on 01-13-09
Hey JD…..I am en-lightened by the whole discussion. I never took the “Sea-kittens name serious. What is serious is the suffering of animals at the hands of human for the over consumption of their flesh. OVER COMSUMPTION being the keyword here. Go ahead and enjoy a tuna sandwich a few times a week or even and quality beef burger. 3 times a day 7 days a week is not necessary and animals at the very least deserve to be treated with compassion and humanely. I don’t see how anyone with intelligence can argue with that….
By Funguymon on 01-13-09
Thanks for the comment JB, though I obviously would disagree about consuming meat, we easily agree on the freedom of choice. Though I choose not to eat meat, if people like PETA made the laws, than it would be illegal. Just like the state of Montana decided I wasn’t smart enough to make my own decision on whether to consume raw milk and that they must baby sit me for my ‘own good’.
If we choose to consume good or bad, let it be our own personal choice.
By JB on 01-13-09
Funguymon, I will always support your freedom of choice, even though we disagree about the choice. I cannot condone PETA’s tactics either; as harmless as they seem now, they have been a lot more radical in the past, They have already strained their credibility beyond imagining, in my eyes.
By Ray on 01-14-09
Come on Jennifer, this is Montana. You have got to be kidding me. You don’t seem to understand that Montanan’s hunt and fish for the food. More times than none, freezers are full of meat that was harvested that provides for the year. Maybe you ought to go after Mother Nature since she is providing so much suffering to the wild this winter. That is just plain torture, way more than a bullet or arrow. Your agenda will never fly in Montana, maybe in Manhattan NY. Do your parents provide your income?
By HAC on 01-14-09
Did you seriously think that the mascot name of a school would be changed just so a tiny group of people could be happy? Come on, think about it. That would be like a group of vegitarieans trying to chane PETA’s name because it has the word animal in it.
By poop on 01-14-09
sea kittens taste good…especially with a lemon sauce drizzled over them and then broiled. TASTEY!
By Shill on 01-15-09
mmmm…mm. m. Tastey!
By MontanaTrace on 01-15-09
Do fish feel pain?
The world’s foremost expert on the subject is Dr. James D. Rose of the University of Wyoming. He’s spent 30 years working on questions of neurology, examining data on the responses of animals to painful stimuli. In 2003 Rose published a landmark study in the journal Reviews of Fisheries Science, concluding that animals need specific regions of the cerebral cortex in order to feel pain. And fish do not have them.
I don’t imagine animal-rights activists are very fond of Dr. Rose.
Right you are. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), for instance, operates a misleading “Fishing Hurts” propaganda campaign based on the work of a few “neutral” experts. (PETA says Dr. Rose isn’t neutral because he enjoys fishing.) One of PETA’s experts is a “Professor of Animal Welfare” who also believes it’s cruel to raise faster-growing cows and turkeys. Another is a microbiologist who claims it’s “unthinkable that fish do not have pain receptors”—despite having done no scientific work with fish—and equates our “lack of justice and compassion to other animals” with human slavery.
It’s worth noting that PETA has sought fishing bans in state parks and called for a Constitutional amendment protecting fish. In 2005 when PETA tried to scare fishermen away from their sport by claiming fish contain “poison,“ campaign director Bruce Friedrich admitted his strategy on an animal-rights mailing list: “For people who don’t care about the suffering of fish, I suspect this will terrify them into not eating them.“
What about lobsters and crabs? Do they feel pain when they’re boiled or steamed?
A 2005 Norwegian study reported that lobsters and crabs don’t have the capacity to feel pain either. The British Guardian newspaper detailed the study’s findings, explaining that lobsters and crabs have only about 100 thousand neurons. Many vertebrates have upwards of 100 billion.
By MontanaTrace on 01-15-09
FISH DO NOT HAVE THE BRAIN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE EXPERIENCE OF PAIN OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF AWARENESS.
http://cotrout.org/do_fish_feel_pain.htm
I can find some small merit in PITA’s positions but it’s mighty small. They’re absurd behavior kills any possible respect I could have for them.
I like my sea kitten baked or pan fried.
By Doughnuteer on 01-15-09
After spending a lot of time on Chickens - I wouldn’t put it past the existing City Council to propose this - it would fit the rest of there agenda…................
By C on 01-22-09
This is INSANE!!!!!!!!! peta has gone crazy. Come on Sea Kittens.
By Andrew L on 01-22-09
For those numb-nuts who misguidedly believe that humans are naturally herbivores - go to the mirror.
Now open your mouth. Look at your teeth. You will notice a particul;ar few that are referred to as “canine teeth”.These teeth are good for nothing so much as the gripping, ripping and tearing of…[drumroll, please] MEAT.
If G_d did not mean for us to eat, he screwed up and placed the wrong kind of teeth in our mouths.
Moreover, we have both large and small intestines - which makes our digestive systems capable of processing (in addition to fruits, grains, nuts, and vegetables) MEAT.
Face biological facts: we are equipped to be omnivores - consuming meat and other natural products.
It was good of you and your underinformed, non-scientific mind(s) to give the rest of us more sensible and observant people a warm belly laugh!