Comments on: Poaching Remains Persistent in Northwest Montana
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By jimbo on 05-28-12 @ 7:47 pm
The problem is there is no real punishment for those caught poaching. If I was the judge, the first time caught blatantly poaching would result in HEAVY fines and loss of hunting priviledges
for 7-10 years. Second time, life ban.
I hate poachers with every fiber of my being.
By mitch on 05-28-12 @ 8:51 pm
Agree Jimbo, they are the scum of the earth!
By brokenbutcher on 05-29-12 @ 7:33 am
When one thinks that “killing” is fun, that person without a doubt has real mental problems.I hunt and it is not just about killling..but then these poachers are not hunters.
By CJ on 05-29-12 @ 9:55 am
Poachers are bored TRAPPERS!!
By 10 bears on 05-29-12 @ 10:59 am
CJ must certainly be a throw back, name calling, bottom feeder and a dreg in societies coffee cup. and is probably doing the poaching so as to have something to use to slander historically
time honored legitimate trapping.
By CJ on 05-30-12 @ 8:08 am
I would say, 10 bears, you have certainly made a case for your “historically time honored legitimate profession” with your intelligent statement. I am sure we all know that the only thing
honorable about trapping is time! It certainly isn’t the slaughtering of animals so you can sell
their fur to China now is it? You and your cronies and your pocket politicians have shown your
true faces to the world and they are the faces of monsters!
By ICallB.S. on 05-31-12 @ 9:34 am
Telling a poacher that he can no longer get a hunting license to hunt is as useful as telling a career alcoholic that he can no longer have a drivers license. They weren’t obeying the law in
the first place and it will not deter them in the least from doing it again. Much harsher
measures are called for….
By jimbo on 05-31-12 @ 11:23 am
BS, I am not talking about the moron that just shoots some deer because it’s standing there. Anyone can do that, anytime, anywhere, you can’t stop that. I am talking about the many
many “hunters” that are engaging in the more subtle acts of poaching that are RAMPANT in
our ranks. Shooting out the truck window is a violation and I consider it poaching, shooting an
animal and putting your kid’s tag on it is poaching, tresspassing and shooting an animal on
private property is poaching, riding motorized vehicles behind locked gates for purposes of
hunting or retrieving game is cheating, and whether you get something or not, I consider you a
poacher. This is huge around here and on the Kootenai NF, and I would confiscate your ride
and have it crushed into a little block of plastic and metal for it, etc, etc. These things are done
by too many people whom it would KILL to not be able to have that license for about 7 or so
years. And like I said, having to pay the people of MT about 1000 bucks for a “measley” whitey
doe(and going up from there for bucks, cows, bulls, bears, etc) would also get some folks’
attention. Don’t kid yourself BS, poaching isn’t an addiction, it’s a choice.
By Kokanee on 05-31-12 @ 12:32 pm
So Jimbo just curious,you take the high road so that you can:A. Thump your barrel chest
B. Break your arm patting yourself on the back.
C. Have something to judge your morals above others.
D. Or simply want to lead by example and when that did not take hold,became frustrated lashing
out at others when your high expectations were not met.
Jimbo we both know what this article is about we have seen poachers and poaching. It has nothing
to do with your expectations of sportsmanship. What’s that old saying,people that live in glass
houses shoudn’t throw stones.
By Kokanee on 05-31-12 @ 12:33 pm
Oh and I agree with B.S.
By jimbo on 05-31-12 @ 1:55 pm
High road? Dang Kok, thanks.
A. No COPD here.
B. Both arms work fine, thanks
C. Yes, I believe poaching is morally wrong.
D. Yes, I have two young children that will be hunting with me, so I try to lead by example.
Having them following game laws won’t be considered too high of an expection. Is it for you
Kok?
Poaching is poaching Kok. You disagree with what I call poaching? Then you aren’t the man I
thought you were. You think that stuff that goes on is OK? Then you and your version of
the “high road” you apparently take on here are full of BS, sorry to say.
Spring bear hunting just ended, and I am pretty upset about what I was seeing “out there”, this
article brought those feelings up. Has nothing to do with patting myself on the back, but if you
are faulting me for apparently trying to set a good example for my kids or whomever else may
be watching(ie, anti-hunters), or bring this stuff to light just to be “on your side” or apparently on
the “low road” then that is on you, not me.
So which one was it that ticked you off so bad that you need to lash out at me? You a road
huntin poacher? You ride your ATV behind the gates? That seems to be pretty popular around
here.
By jimbo on 05-31-12 @ 1:55 pm
Expectation, sorry.
By Kokanee on 05-31-12 @ 4:41 pm
Jim I was heckling your soapbox speak,not your stance on poaching. The high road be good, lowroad be bad.
I think in this instance the term poachers refers to people who are wasting game animals. You
however took the opportunity to climb up on your box claiming sainthood, hence the idiom on
glass houses
By jimbo on 05-31-12 @ 5:17 pm
And my point was, even if caught, they will get a slap on the wrist, so, why not just continue breaking game laws?
When exactly did merely doing the right thing constitue sainthood. I am not a saint, nor do I
think I am better than anyone else. Everyone has their “issue”, wildlife management/biology is
mine.
By Clarity on 06-01-12 @ 6:32 am
As long as we provide legal justifications and call it ‘sport’ to kill and take away the life of another being, there will be those who go even further and abuse even that standard.
By ICallB.S. on 06-01-12 @ 2:36 pm
I was thinking of much costlier fines and the seizure of firearms from poachers as a harsher punishment (perhaps with a little community service- i.e.; roadside trash clean up). Nothing
hits Montanans harder that a loss of money and/or guns. BTW, I do not road hunt or use
ORV’s when I hunt. Just my feet.
By Red Green on 10-31-12 @ 5:01 pm
If somebody poached a poacher, I’ll bet the problem would all but disappear in very short order.
By Clarity on 11-01-12 @ 12:06 pm
As long as shooting and killing animals is marketed as recreation and ‘sport’ what do youexpect. Tragic. Sick and tragic. What would it look like if respecting animals was made
profitable instead… There is a thin line between killing animals just for the thrill and killing
a person. Killing is killing. Pregnant does - what kind of person kills pregnant animals…
God help their souls.
By Craig moore on 11-01-12 @ 12:27 pm
Clarity, your linking poaching where animals are left to rot with legitimate, legal hunting thatvalues maintaining sustainable animal populations and the food those animals provide is beyond
rediculous.
By Clarity on 11-01-12 @ 12:59 pm
The majority of hunting is not for food. It is NOT for need, it is for the thrill of killingand putting an animals antlers on the wall. That is why it is so profitable for the State, vast
sums of money are paid by out of state hunters for the luxury of killing our wildlife. Hunting
debases the value placed on life overall. That mistaken idea that animals are just there for
our taking, with no concern for their own wish nd right to live, is what leads to poaching being
a huge problem in Montana.
By Craig moore on 11-01-12 @ 1:19 pm
Clarity, you are quite unaware of the facts. For those hunters that don’t want the meet thereis this:
http://mfbn.org/news/hunters-against-hunger
====quote===
Montana Hunters Against Hunger
Listen to MFBN on MTPR! Our Hunters Against Hunger program was featured on the evening edition.
To learn more about the program, visit mfbn.org. Or contact James at jdodge@mfbn.org
http://www.mtpr.net/program_info/2009-11-04-132
http://umnewsmontana.blogspot.com/2009/10/hunters-for-hunger.html
Wild Game meat is a very important source of high-quality, cost effective protein for those in
need. Montana Hunters Against Hunger is a program developed by the Montana Food Bank Network
that arranges for hunters to donate their big game kill to provide meat for those in need.
Hunting is such a big part of our culture here in Montana and so is helping our neighbors in
their time of need so it is a perfect fit. We encourage those who enjoy hunting to buy an extra
tag and hunt for the food bank.
===end quote===
Hunters encourage sustainability of the resource. Poachers do not.
By Clarity on 11-01-12 @ 6:53 pm
Or, instead of killing even more animals, why not just donate the cost of the hunting license,ammo, gear and guns, directly to the people who need money…
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