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By Bea Elliott on 03-22-09
Horse slaughter, cow slaughter, chicken/pig slaughter - none are “humane”... Further, I would also like to argue that as long as horse slaughter is profitable - there will be an “overpopulation problem”. The industry would like us to believe that these are unwanted, old, sick, diseased and dying horses… This is not the truth. These are animals bred to be “disposable” for profit. Disposable for consumption - these are healthy deliberately made meat/leather machines. I could never imagine getting money for the carcass of my dog or cat -horses have moved beyond livestock status and should remain protected. And animal agri-business should stop breeding these animals. They’ve served man long enough - it’s time to let them go.
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By frog on 03-22-09
I believe the slaughter bill is a good thing. The lady with the above comment needs to do some research into this topic. Horses are not dogs and cats they are and always will be livestock, and if you choose to place them in the pet catagory then you must consider the fact of the huge over population of them. Thousands of dogs & cats are put down daily. There is a over population of unwanted horses,many are piss mares , untrainable,sick,old or dangerous.Owners need a place to take these animals. Many horses are being abandoned and left to starve because there’s nowhere to take them. I am a horse person, I love my animals but they aren’t house pets. They are my friends,yes,but they have a use.
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By Lisa on 03-22-09
Horses are not raised for food in this country, so go ahead and call them livestock, it does not change the fact that horses can be given a slew of drugs and go from “stable to table” as the slogan goes, in a matter of days. There’s no regulation there and the US Congress has already voted to de-fund the USDA inspections. How is that meat going to be inspected in this plant in Montana? The courts already said that the fee for service scheme that the previous plants tried with the USDA is illegal. With the recent concerns over food safety with food that Americans actually eat, how do you think the general public is going to react to putting inspectors into this plant, a plant that only benefits a small fraction of the population? Virtually no one in the country eats horse meat, most don’t own horses, and most horse owners don’t sent their horses to slaughter, but you would expect they’d be happy sending their understaffed and underfunded USDA to Montana? Right.
Considering that federal legislation is pending to criminalize the horse slaughter industry and the new president has been a long-time supporter of it, it seems the Montana legislators who voted for this plant are the ones who have not done their research.
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By horse crap on 03-23-09
Lisa, again, please give it a break. Last time this came up the violins played for weeks and we begged you experts to come up with a solution. Never happened. So legislation had to do it instead. Well, that’s their job.
If you don’t want to eat horsemeat then don’t. I know I wouldn’t so I won’t.
If you want to rescue all the horses then go for it. I don’t. Already got stuck with two of them, you are welcome to take over that burden. Thank you.
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By poison on 03-23-09
they all have worm poison with in their body that will hurt the health of the people eating them should eventually bring about law suits.
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By Another point on 03-24-09
Poison~ Do you really think that Horse de-wormer is any differnet then any other dewormer? Plus the majority of horse meat isn’t used for human consumption it is used for animal feed which for animals such as dogs is a a much more natural thing for them to eat then soy rice or corn
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By poison on 03-24-09
thanks Another point if that #### is in our beef, hogs, and chickens ill drop eating them like a rock they are already showing eating beef leads to heart discease and early death. thanks for enlightening me they should have to put that stuff on the package labels so people arnt lied to
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By Bea Elliott on 03-24-09
Just in: great article on the ills of red meat consumption… That would include horse meat as well. Meat just isn’t beneficial… the way it plugs the arteries should convince anyone concerned with health to reduce and eliminate it from their diet.
Like Soy is all that good for you? It has a high level or Esstrogen high enough that they don’t recomend giving it to children because it can cause problems such as an increased risk of obestity. And for women who have reproductive problems such as endometriosis it can be very dangerous. So eat meat and have a risk of heart attack which most of us already have or eat soy and have it screw with our hormones. sounds like you guys just want us to eat chicken.
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By Bea Elliott on 03-29-09
Re: soy… and what do we think we’re feeding farmed animals? 85% of soya goes to fatten cows, pigs and chickens. Further, who said man must survive on soya? I’m vegan and I probably eat less soy than a nonvegan. There are after all hundreds of other plant based grains & vegetables beside “soy”.
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Let’s be civil. The Flathead Beacon encourages vigorous discussion and lively debate, but we will delete comments that attack other readers, make accusations we can’t verify, stray too far off topic, criticize local businesses (call them if you have a problem), convict someone of a crime, use profanity or are simply judged to be in bad taste. We don’t always have someone moderating comments, so we ask for your help: If you see a comment that violates these ground rules, or you simply deem it offensive, please e-mail editor [at] flatheadbeacon.com. The views expressed in the comments section do not reflect those of the Beacon.
By Bea Elliott on 03-22-09
Horse slaughter, cow slaughter, chicken/pig slaughter - none are “humane”... Further, I would also like to argue that as long as horse slaughter is profitable - there will be an “overpopulation problem”. The industry would like us to believe that these are unwanted, old, sick, diseased and dying horses… This is not the truth. These are animals bred to be “disposable” for profit. Disposable for consumption - these are healthy deliberately made meat/leather machines. I could never imagine getting money for the carcass of my dog or cat -horses have moved beyond livestock status and should remain protected. And animal agri-business should stop breeding these animals. They’ve served man long enough - it’s time to let them go.
By frog on 03-22-09
I believe the slaughter bill is a good thing. The lady with the above comment needs to do some research into this topic. Horses are not dogs and cats they are and always will be livestock, and if you choose to place them in the pet catagory then you must consider the fact of the huge over population of them. Thousands of dogs & cats are put down daily. There is a over population of unwanted horses,many are piss mares , untrainable,sick,old or dangerous.Owners need a place to take these animals. Many horses are being abandoned and left to starve because there’s nowhere to take them. I am a horse person, I love my animals but they aren’t house pets. They are my friends,yes,but they have a use.
By Lisa on 03-22-09
Horses are not raised for food in this country, so go ahead and call them livestock, it does not change the fact that horses can be given a slew of drugs and go from “stable to table” as the slogan goes, in a matter of days. There’s no regulation there and the US Congress has already voted to de-fund the USDA inspections. How is that meat going to be inspected in this plant in Montana? The courts already said that the fee for service scheme that the previous plants tried with the USDA is illegal. With the recent concerns over food safety with food that Americans actually eat, how do you think the general public is going to react to putting inspectors into this plant, a plant that only benefits a small fraction of the population? Virtually no one in the country eats horse meat, most don’t own horses, and most horse owners don’t sent their horses to slaughter, but you would expect they’d be happy sending their understaffed and underfunded USDA to Montana? Right.
Considering that federal legislation is pending to criminalize the horse slaughter industry and the new president has been a long-time supporter of it, it seems the Montana legislators who voted for this plant are the ones who have not done their research.
By horse crap on 03-23-09
Lisa, again, please give it a break. Last time this came up the violins played for weeks and we begged you experts to come up with a solution. Never happened. So legislation had to do it instead. Well, that’s their job.
If you don’t want to eat horsemeat then don’t. I know I wouldn’t so I won’t.
If you want to rescue all the horses then go for it. I don’t. Already got stuck with two of them, you are welcome to take over that burden. Thank you.
By poison on 03-23-09
they all have worm poison with in their body that will hurt the health of the people eating them should eventually bring about law suits.
By Another point on 03-24-09
Poison~ Do you really think that Horse de-wormer is any differnet then any other dewormer? Plus the majority of horse meat isn’t used for human consumption it is used for animal feed which for animals such as dogs is a a much more natural thing for them to eat then soy rice or corn
By poison on 03-24-09
thanks Another point if that #### is in our beef, hogs, and chickens ill drop eating them like a rock they are already showing eating beef leads to heart discease and early death. thanks for enlightening me they should have to put that stuff on the package labels so people arnt lied to
By Bea Elliott on 03-24-09
Just in: great article on the ills of red meat consumption… That would include horse meat as well. Meat just isn’t beneficial… the way it plugs the arteries should convince anyone concerned with health to reduce and eliminate it from their diet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032301626.html?hpid=topnews
By another point on 03-24-09
Like Soy is all that good for you? It has a high level or Esstrogen high enough that they don’t recomend giving it to children because it can cause problems such as an increased risk of obestity. And for women who have reproductive problems such as endometriosis it can be very dangerous. So eat meat and have a risk of heart attack which most of us already have or eat soy and have it screw with our hormones. sounds like you guys just want us to eat chicken.
By Bea Elliott on 03-29-09
Re: soy… and what do we think we’re feeding farmed animals? 85% of soya goes to fatten cows, pigs and chickens. Further, who said man must survive on soya? I’m vegan and I probably eat less soy than a nonvegan. There are after all hundreds of other plant based grains & vegetables beside “soy”.