Comments on: States Rebel Against Washington
By littlehawk12 on 03-29-09
all these resolutions are just talk.until states actually start to cede ,resolutions dont mean a damn thing.im sick of all these states politicians spouting off with their “RESOLUTIONS” and with their other hand out for “STIMULOUS MONEY” that will ultimately destroy this country.
By K on 03-29-09
It’s Washington University in St.Louis. Not in D.C.
By JB on 03-29-09
K, I think you need to address that comment to the writer composing for The Christian Science Monitor, that was where this article was pulled from.
It’s gratifying to see that most of the states are realizing that the Washington establishment is no friend to the people. The fact is that Washington is certainly not being controlled by the people, or even those in power, but by those with an eye for destroying the United States as we know it. The politicians are merely the puppets, the actors on the stage…and all of these events are meant to distract us from what is really going on. Obama has lied to the people of the United States from day 1 of his presidential election campaign. In a few years time, he will be decried as being to blame for the further mess that we will find ourselves in. Obama, along with those he put in power, will be instrumental in eventually bringing this nation to its knees.
There is no trust in the federal government any more - if there were, why would these states take this kind of action? You’re right, littlehawk; talking about it is one thing, but for these states to begin seceding from the Union would send a clearer message. That is one reason why the government is purposely destroying the economy, to force the states to accept “stimulus” funding so that they are dependent on the federal government for their survival, and retain their loyalty to maintain their power base. Those who support Obama will call me a conspiracy theorist, that I see conspiracy in everything the government does - and they would be right, because I know for a fact that there is a conspiracy going on - to take away what freedom we have left.
By littlehawk12 on 03-29-09
from what i understand .texas did turn down the “STIMULOUS MONEY”.maybe texas will once again set an example for the rest of the country.versus new york or california.i encourage obama supporters to go to youtube and watch and RESEARCH the content of THE OBAMA DECEPTION.his supporters should be infuriated,even more than those who opposed him.this jerk has went back on EVERY SINGLE thing that got them to vote for him.i feel their is going to be hell to pay from his future former supporters when they figure out just how much they have been decepted.i am also hoping this will eventually bring us to be more united in the long run.maybe then they will realize how the media and poloticians use the Rs & Ds only too keep us more divided as a people.come on folks. the only way we can stop this is get it “together”.
By gjdagis on 03-29-09
I hope that this movement eventually succeeds in dismantling the federal government as it has come to be. The only purpose of the federal government is to protect the people from invaders and settle disputes between states. They have NO business making any laws not related to these things. NO business !
By Joseph Mark Lytle on 03-29-09
I think that most of us have been on our knees, praying to our Lord Juses Christ, for stringth to fight the good fight! Don’t forget those tea bags men. We need chang alright as we did when the man was put in the high spot, and still need it but for the better. I will fight for our rights on any turff.J. Mark Lytle
By Chuck Baldwin in Florida on 03-30-09
I cannot believe that the great freedom-loving State of Montana has not yet joined the list of states declaring sovereignty. Many of us around the country look up to Montana as a “Last Best Place” for freedom and independence. Come on, Montana: show America that there is still a place where freedom is alive and well. Pass your own State sovereignty bill. And, while you’re at it, put some teeth in it. Many people across America are looking very carefully at those states that are willing to “live free.” Lead on!
By Jim Wahler on 03-30-09
The weakness of the 10th Amendment movement in the States is that each is narrowly focused on one or two issues, with the exception of Hawaii which seems to be heading toward secession. The Feds will just ignore it.
We need to have legislation that ‘Nullifies’ ALL federal laws that are unconstitutional! And back it up by passing ‘Real Money’ bills that would gradually eliminate the power Washington holds on us through the FED and it’s Fiat (monopoly) money.
By Cowgirl up on 03-30-09
The city of Rough and Ready California pulled out….don’t know the year…but did not rejoin the Union until 1954. I have a copy of the origional “cede” document.
By mooseberryinn on 03-30-09
Won’t happen here because Baucus, Testor and our gov. are in B.O.‘s pocket. Too bad, but Montana won’t be leading anything soon.
By Julie on 03-30-09
I was visiting here for a funeral and have been just floored with all the hateful postings on this site. Everyone talks so negatively about Californian’s, but I do not know of anyone where I’m from that speaks with such hatred as you people. I don’t know why my family likes it here so much and Chuck from Florida, I can’t understand the “Last Best Place” saying, because I find the people here hateful and close-minded. I do hope others reading this posting do not judge all of the people here by the bloggers. I met some wonderful folks at the funeral who were caring and what I’ve always imagined MT was really like.
By Nancy on 03-31-09
Julie, if you are reading this on your return home. Please do not judge all MT’ins by the bloggers on this site. Most of the people in this Valley are wonderful and like anywhere else, there are some that are not always well-intentioned. Have a safe return home to CA, which by the way is one of my favorite states.
By Citizen on 03-31-09
Great collection of articles on states rights:
http://www.google.com/custom?sa=Search&cof=LW:500;L:http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewroc1a.gif;LH:93;AH:center;AWFID:65dad07a461e3427;&domains=lewrockwell.com&q=States+rights&sitesearch=lewrockwell.com
The founders of this nation believed in the sovereignty of the states, for it was the very tyranny of a detached and centralized power in Britain of which they “seceded” from in the form of the American Revolution. Any person opposed to the sovereignty of states is neither a patriot nor an American, but rather a traitorous and naive serf, whose understanding of our republic is warped and tarnished.
Our nation is on a path to destruction. The Federal Government is a dangerous centralization of power that will name at will its enemies and use whatever means necessary to exercise its will on the people. The checks and balances, and processes put in place by the founders of this land have been eroded and trespassed upon by the executive orders of a few. The judicial branch has ignored and remained powerless, the congressional branch is a ceremonial group, mostly bought and paid for by lobbyists.
Our nation has been robbed, raped and sold into slavery. We the People have pledged 9.6 Trillion dollars in bailouts on top of a 12 Trillion dollar debt. Pass the tea please.
SEE YOU ALL ON THE 4th of APRIL AT DEPOT PARK!
By grannysgadgets on 03-31-09
Chuck Baldwin : Thought I would let you know dont loose faith in freedom loving Montana, we as a matter of fact are declaring our 10th amendment right with our HB-246 billA BILL FOR AN ACT ENTITLED: “AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA.
Just a couple of headlines out of the many out there as follows:
Already, 9 states: Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan,
Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. 12 others: Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering such measures. Of course, the citizens of each state would have to ratify the bill, just as they would have to vote to join the Union.
Montana is also claiming the 9th amendment “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”.
If you type into yahoo search states declaring 10th amendment you will pull up MASS articles !!!!! It’s just not really main stream info, dont know why !
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
Good Comment grannysgadgets.Bills to be voted by citizens are great.But to me resolutions are just words.and you, of all people should know ,grannysgadgets,that the main steam only reports what they are told to report.Mainstream reporters are afraid of losing their jobs,or worse ,if they start reporting the truth.Or what is really going on.
By noel on 03-31-09
When are we going to be done talking and start taking our country back the way our founders did and would want i should say(demand) us to.
By grannysgadgets on 03-31-09
Littlehawk very true, very true…...... Did you hear about the 10th amendment rally that took place in Pennsylvania this month ? Only sites that showed it taking place was Sam Rohere’s (senators) page (name spelling ?) and youtube…..... If not, you should check it out….... It was not covered by the news at all, other states attended as well ! pretty good sized !WOW and the tea partys are getting HUGE !
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
grannysgadgets.Did not know about this particular rally.I"ll check it out.These Liberty Loving get together events are happening so fast and furious it is hard to keep up with them all.
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
Just a suggestion.Dress in our Sunday best on the 4th
By Cowgirl up on 03-31-09
Littlehawk…what did you find out about the Rally on the 4th? What time does it start? The New American Tea Party has great info. at newamericanteaparty.com. They’ve had lots of rallys with large numbers attending…and your right grannysgadgets…you never hear anything about on the news.
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
From 12 pm to 2 pm ,unless I stand corrected.
By grannysgadgets on 03-31-09
This is what I found.KPAX TV:
Flathead protestors plan tea party
Non partisan
Depot park
Saturday April 4th @ noon ( mentioned no end time)
bring signs, tea bags, and a chair
There will be a scroll for people to sign.
Cowgirl and Littlehawk : I suggest looking up issues that concern you on youtube, however I would use it as a investigative tool, and then search from there, Most stations usaully have links to back their findings. Just a thought !
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
Thanks grannysgadgets.I prefer the EDGE.
By grannysgadgets on 03-31-09
Littlehawk : I would appreciate it if you would paste in a link, I would like to check the site out. Always looking for all sides of the story here you know !
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
z600.com
By Cowgirl up on 03-31-09
See ya Sat.! Thanks for the info. granny and littlehawk…will check out both sites.
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
check this out grannysgadgets.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9V.hD45ccSE
By grannysgadgets on 03-31-09
Littlehawk the link isnt working !!!!! I tried several times and nada !
By Cowgirl up on 03-31-09
Littlehawk…I can’t get the link to work either.
By liyylehawk12 on 03-31-09
Apologies ladies.Try——youtube.com/watch?v=E9VhD45ccSE
By littlehawk12 on 03-31-09
Or just better yet.go too youtube and look for the original guns and roses video for civil war.
By Stallone on 04-01-09
I disagree with the above remark. I think in these tough economic times we need to rethink our old ways of thinking. For more information visit http://www.alaskapersonalinjurylawyer.net
By littlehaw12 on 04-01-09
Try z600.com again.i got it to work fine.But youtube was working on their site last night,and i could not get things to work right either there. Other good news source places are campaignforliberty.com and ronpaul.com.I always know of these events ahead of time because i listen too 600 on the AM from 10 AM to 12:30 PM,while i work on my studies.these are all good places to get news if you are the type that understands why states are rebelling against DC
By History Lesson on 04-01-09
The Boston Tea Party was a revolt against the largest company in the world at the time. The east India trading Company. They were fixing the market for tea putting all the smaller competition out of business. SO if you want a new “TEA PARTY” go protest WALMART.
Learn some history.
YOU all argue that the media is all BS BUT then you want us to listen to JOHN STOKES?
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
Ignorance is the state in which a person lacks knowledge and is unaware of various issues in general.
By liittlehawk12 on 04-01-09
You should also TAKE some more History Lessons.And then you would know that the original tea party was not “only"about tea smart one.It was about tyranny.All products ranging from spices to silverware to no jobs.If you knew you HISTORY you would know that several smaller incidents “smaller tea parties” led up to the bigger more historical one in Boston you knew your HISTORY,you would also know that people did not simply just trow tea in the Harbour,they burnt the traders ships ,shops,hung the traders ect.ect As with your problem with john and family ,I want to know what your problem with getting people to grow gardens ,store food,Buy Real Wealth “Gold and silver”,and getting people to rely on themselves?Instead of government.
By littlehawk12 on 04-01-09
From-Merriam-Webster…one that follows the the opinions or teachings of another…One that imitates another… History Lesson
By freeMONTANA on 04-01-09
Wal-Mart is not controlling the federal government or Obama/Bush. The banking cartel is the REAL power in America. The Federal Reserve and its Central Banks control our Nation. The president is just a puppet! It makes no difference if it is BUSH or OBAMA. Both serve their N.W.O. masters well. Both are traitors!
Oh and two other reasons for the original Tea Party and Revolutionary War are:
1. colonies could not print own money
2. colonies could not make steel implements for farming
Our forefather’s are ashamed of us! We have let their dream of the greatest Republic ever; to come within less than a generation away from perishing from the Earth! For generations we have lived on the blood and deeds of Patriots of old. For how much longer can we live our lives on their history, without willing to contribute any of ours to the cause of Liberty? This is not a call to arms, rather a call to action.
See you all at the TEA PARTY.
By manpurse on 04-01-09
Montana had one -HJ 26- and it was voted down by the legislature
By conrad carter on 04-01-09
If anyone can ever take credit for preparing the way for the Anti-Christ it is Barry Borak Hussein Soetoro Obama.
By unionmade on 04-01-09
the TEA PARTY was against the overwhelming power of the corporation “east india trading co” which was owned in part by the rothchilds and the royalty of england not the democrats and the unions you MORONS!
YOU are perfect apologists for exactly what you claim to be against - the rise of big money
and the people burning the ships and the traders were the British not the AMERICANS. THAT is why we revolted - they were attacking us! It’s 5th Grade History!
AND people wonder why high tech companies don’t re-locate to the FLATHEAD. I think if you all kept quiet the likelihood of attracting the 21st century might increase.
go to www.theyrule.net and see how many UNION people are in here - and then go see many of your “so-called” heroes are in there….
By JB on 04-01-09
I know the last comment was from you, mtdon - it reeks of your “charming” commentary. If you can’t be constructive about your comments, then stay away from the computer keyboard. Insults have no place here.
By freeMONTANA on 04-02-09
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesianism
This needs updated for to allow for Bush Jr. and Obama
By littlehawk12 on 04-02-09
HEY uniomade,Did you get that Information out of you unionmade government schoolbook?
By sorry unionmade on 04-02-09
Did not you masons got your feelings hurt so easy.
By littlehawk12 on 04-02-09
unionmade.No one here ever said the “tea party” had anything to do with unions or democrats.Are you dyslexic or something?Also,I guess you think the peasant Americans just stood by and watched without burning anything BRITISH during the “tea party”.
By John on 04-02-09
I’m glad to see folks are rallying together and deciding against world government and fascism, however, I haven’t been successful getting address/personal information on front men working the power positions like Geithner, Emmanuel, Kissenger, Volker any and all executives working the various branches of the federal reserve bank. The firm I have previously used to trace individuals refuses to give me info on anyone in sensitive positions. (someone out their with clearance?) To look a criminal face to face imho is light years more powerful then gathering up at the town square. Example, I walk up to Geithner and tell him that continuing to give $29 of every $30 tax payer fiat dollars to his banking buddies in Europe and Asia instead of maintaining infrastructure, helping the homeless or providing universal health care for USA citizens will be “bad for your health mother bucker” would be more effective than standing with a sign “No Bailouts” at the city hall in Kalispell..? Again, anyone with access, I would appreciate a link.
By Cowgirl up on 04-02-09
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This article is about a 1773 protest. For other uses, see Boston Tea Party (disambiguation).
This iconic 1846 lithograph by Nathaniel Currier was entitled “The Destruction of Tea at Boston Harbor”; the phrase “Boston Tea Party” had not yet become standard. Contrary to Currier’s depiction, few of the men dumping the tea were actually disguised as American Indians.[1]The Boston Tea Party was a direct action protest by colonists in Boston, a town in the British colony of Massachusetts, against the British government. On December 16, 1773, after officials in Boston refused to return three shiploads of taxed tea to Britain, a group of colonists boarded the ships and destroyed the tea by throwing it into Boston Harbor. The incident remains an iconic event of American history, and has often been referenced in other political protests.
The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act for a variety of reasons, especially because they believed that it violated their constitutional right to be taxed only by their own elected representatives. Protestors had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain. He apparently did not expect that the protestors would choose to destroy the tea rather than concede the authority of a legislature in which they were not directly represented
By littlehawk12 on 04-02-09
@ you sound very confused and should seek help.Professional help.
By littlehawk12 on 04-02-09
not.you Cowgirl up!!!!!!!!!!!But the weirdo with the post above yours!
By Very Nice Cowgirl UP on 04-02-09
I can tell you put some energy into that Historical Post.Good Work Lady!!!
By littlehawk12 on 04-02-09
Just kidding John.I See Where YOU Are AT…......
By littlehawk12 on 04-02-09
Hav a good one.
By Freedom on 04-03-09
BREAKING NEWS: here’s a good one for the rally!!!
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/fannie-and-freddie-detail-retention-bonuses/?hp
By Cowgirl up on 04-03-09
Thanks llittlehawk.
By littlehawk12 on 04-03-09
You are welcome Cowgirl Up.Hope I can be graced with your presence tomorrow.
By Rawhide on 04-03-09
For those who don’t understand what the Tea Party is all about, I suggest they view this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA
By littlehawk12 on 04-03-09
Hey Rawhide,Can we get that on bigscreen at THE PARTY.
By Cowgirl up on 04-03-09
littlehawk….looking forward to it.
By littlehawk12 on 04-03-09
Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbpzwFGJFqY
By Cowgirl up on 04-03-09
It’s awesome!!! I have it.
By Freedom on 04-04-09
Another reason for the “tea party”:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30040075/
By littlehawk12 on 04-04-09
I noticed the nerd media gave attention to th socialist blowbama rejects ,but did not care too interview any PATRIOTS.I know we aqre used to that huh?I looked for you cowgirl up,but did not find?Were YOU THERE?I was the one with the big red doggy.
By grannysgadgets on 04-04-09
Littlehawk : How was the tea party ? Did many show ? We took the boys hiking today, it was a great day in the woods, well other then the fact that the woodticks are up and running now ! Found a few =0( EWW
By litttlehawk12 on 04-04-09
only about 4 to 5 Hundred.Can i take you an cowgirl up for a cup of coffee sometime?maybe could even have pie and ice-cream,my treat.I’d be honored
By Ronnie on 04-04-09
Littlehawk12, Granny and Cowgirl…suggestion. Why don’t the three of you exchange e-mail or phone numbers so we do not have to read your personal conversations. Another suggestion, get jobs or get a life.
By grannysgadgets on 04-04-09
Littlehawk, and Cowgirl : my e-mail addy is grannysgadgets@yahoo.com
Ronnie sheeesh CHILL OUT ! And ah-HEM who are you to assume that we are jobless or lifeless ? sheesh get some manners ! ( Did’nt your mama ever tell you that when you point a finger at someone to remember 3 more are pointing back at you ?? )
Anyways you all should check out this video, in the side bar of this video are some other originals THAT APPLY TO THE ECONOMY, and DETROIT AUTO MAKERS…........ WHICH is APPLICABLE to the above said conversation aka THE TOPIC .As were the questions/comments about the TEA PARTYS…... <grin>
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=mAvyFEJZi1w&feature=relatd
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=bXRibzKERpU&feature=relatd
By Bull Rider on 04-05-09
Ronnie.Stick it where the sun dont Shine!Your comment has nothing to do with this thread!Littlehawk,your right there were only 4 or 500 ,but while we were holding our protest signs 1000s of people gave us thumbs up.ALSO RONNIE,it looks like people here are making new friends,while you are content to be insultive.Maybe that is why you are upset.Because you dont have any friends.
By Ronnie on 04-05-09
Bull Rider, Granny….Plenty of friends here. We converse on the phone, via e-mail, over coffee or a glass of wine or a beer, not with the general public.
By Bull Rider on 04-05-09
Again you comment has nothing to do with this thread.
By grannysgadgets on 04-05-09
Bull Rider : Thank you ! It’s all good…... Some people are just to narrow minded/ or prejudice to step out of their conventional safe guards, and meet the next friend out there ! Welcome to the year 2009 Ronnie, people actually meet other like minded, or friendly people on line via internet services, they also meet on places like myspace, facebook, and I might add have video conversation, and even make phone calls over the internet !It’s ok I know it can be a little scarey ( Imagine a granny having to preach this). But alot of what happened in America is we divided ourselves with our differances, you know democrats, republicans, conservative, green, left, right, rich, poor….... It’s a good time to unite under one cause, that we are mostly in the same boat, that we love our country, to realize your not the only one worried, and hey if you make a friend or two along the way…...... How can that be viewed as a bad thing ?
Well thats my two bits….... you can now go ahead and choose to be a recluse, or broden a horizon. and talk to that PUBLIC, general as they may be, they are people, and Montana people at that ( Here I believe that we still call that a neighbor !)
By karen on 04-06-09
Gee, what will the eastern seaboard think when it sees that they do not run this country? The majority of this country are not the rich liberals who think just because they have money they can dictate what they want. The true heart of this country are people who work hard, have integrity, and most of all have common sense. We are the majority and are tired of being mowed over by those with no integrity. We are uniting and our strength will bring back what our country is about, not what they think it should be.
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
When did you join the band Karen?
By karen on 04-06-09
I have been disgusted with everything since before the elections and have just become more angry since then. I have tried finding sites on the internet to see if some sort of coalition was being developed. It is building, more and more are talking about how angry they are over things that are going on, and they are tired of it. Good, decent people. We need a voice and if the local representatives aren’t going to give us what we want, I would dare say we will come up with our own leader who will be our voice. That is what we need, a person with strength who can stand up to those who have created this mess. Does that answer your question?
By littlehawk12 on 04-06-09
But you despise Evergreen.Or was that a DIFFERANT kAREN?
By karen on 04-06-09
Don’t know anything about evergreen, that is a different karen.
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