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By kate on 03-30-09
We need gun control. It’s becoming “Every Man for himself and we all get a gun”.
Does random school, church and nursing home shooting mean nothing?
Are the rights of a few gun totting people worth more then those who have to bury their dead?
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By mitch on 03-30-09
I will respond to your post now, Kate, before the column gets filled up with the usual mindless babble. I’ve seen your letters and agree with you. I wonder what these posters think when something unacceptable happens…..such as the brutal murder recently of the little 2 year old in evergreen? Or the life long injuries the little girl in Marion received because of the careless nature of several. Do these gun nuts secretly cheer these murderers on because they took advantage of their 2nd amendment rights? I’m sure they use the same tired and meaningless excuses that are so handy, such as how many children are killed in car accidents, choke on chicken bones and other ridiculous responses they come up with when they have nothing intelligent to say. Real sportsmen and actual gun collectors seem to have little to say on this blog, and I’m sure it’s because they do not want to be associated with the wingnuts. I do believe eventually there will be strong restrictions on gun control, but it will be people like these nasty, name calling, angry, shouting posters who bring this about. They don’t sound to me like they are mentally stable, should the unstable really be armed? They are in the minority, Kate, they are just louder.
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By Nancy on 03-30-09
Mitch and Kate…so nice to hear the voice of reason for once. Thank you. I am certain there will be the usual like you said “Wingnuts” that disagree, but I’m with you both on this.
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By Gun Loving Dem on 03-30-09
I’m a democrat, I love guns, and I love funding for education. If the schools are allowed to do their jobs with adequate funding, people have futures, and people with futures have a hard time wanting to shoot everyone else. Attacking guns for the criminals who use them is like wanting to ban cars to control speeding and drunk driving. Solve the problem not the manifestations.
Its alot easier to cry “gun control” than to actually solve the more complex issues that drive people to commit crimes with guns. You just can’t take away guns, period. No gun control
It’s a great day to be in Montana because all of our federal delegation stands up for this vital constitutional right.
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By eye on the target on 03-30-09
I’m with the “Gun Loving Dem”
That said, I’m a Montanan that has lived in big cities. The issues they face in urban areas are very different than the issues we Montanans face here. There are some common sense gun regulations in place now, and some more that should be considered. There are also some regulations that have proven not to work and should be abandoned. The key is cutting out the fanatics.
Guns, yes. Gun violence, no. Smart, fair, strategies that protect our freedoms and our citizens are needed.
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By Mark on 03-30-09
The rights of a few “gun totting [sic] people”? A few? Does the left ever come out with new talking points on this issue? If so they, firstly, need to teach you that toting only has two “t”‘s, not three, and, secondly, that gun ownership is not just limited to just a “few”. Tens of millions of Americans legally own guns, not a scattered “few”.
Also, there are already laws preventing people from murdering someone, obviously, as well as laws preventing the mentally unstable from owning guns. Making it harder for law-abiding citizens to own guns not only does not prevent criminals, who by definition break the law, from obtaining guns, it also is in violation of the Second Amendment of our Constitution, or were you in a cave when the Supreme Court issued its ruling in DC v. Heller? And mitch, it is not taking advantage of Second Amendment rights to murder someone, it is in violation of it, and every other one of the hundreds of gun laws already on the books. And frankly, the only people arguing this issue who “cheer” the murders of innocents are the anti-gun “geniuses” who shamelessly exploit every tragedy in an attempt to trample the Constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens . But that is par for the course because the anti-gun crowd always repeats the same things, ad nauseum, when they “have nothing intelligent to say”.
And it is usually considered hypocritical (because it is) to decry loudmouth namecallers, and then turn right around and call people with whom you disagree “wingnuts”. And since when did Baucus, Tester, and the rest of the Democrats opposed to new violations of the Second Amendment become wingnuts? I guess everyone who disagrees with the brilliant genius that is you is a wingnut, right?
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Let’s be civil. The Flathead Beacon encourages vigorous discussion and lively debate, but we will delete comments that attack other readers, make accusations we can’t verify, stray too far off topic, criticize local businesses (call them if you have a problem), convict someone of a crime, use profanity or are simply judged to be in bad taste. We don’t always have someone moderating comments, so we ask for your help: If you see a comment that violates these ground rules, or you simply deem it offensive, please e-mail editor [at] flatheadbeacon.com. The views expressed in the comments section do not reflect those of the Beacon.
By kate on 03-30-09
We need gun control. It’s becoming “Every Man for himself and we all get a gun”.
Does random school, church and nursing home shooting mean nothing?
Are the rights of a few gun totting people worth more then those who have to bury their dead?
By mitch on 03-30-09
I will respond to your post now, Kate, before the column gets filled up with the usual mindless babble. I’ve seen your letters and agree with you. I wonder what these posters think when something unacceptable happens…..such as the brutal murder recently of the little 2 year old in evergreen? Or the life long injuries the little girl in Marion received because of the careless nature of several. Do these gun nuts secretly cheer these murderers on because they took advantage of their 2nd amendment rights? I’m sure they use the same tired and meaningless excuses that are so handy, such as how many children are killed in car accidents, choke on chicken bones and other ridiculous responses they come up with when they have nothing intelligent to say. Real sportsmen and actual gun collectors seem to have little to say on this blog, and I’m sure it’s because they do not want to be associated with the wingnuts. I do believe eventually there will be strong restrictions on gun control, but it will be people like these nasty, name calling, angry, shouting posters who bring this about. They don’t sound to me like they are mentally stable, should the unstable really be armed? They are in the minority, Kate, they are just louder.
By Nancy on 03-30-09
Mitch and Kate…so nice to hear the voice of reason for once. Thank you. I am certain there will be the usual like you said “Wingnuts” that disagree, but I’m with you both on this.
By Gun Loving Dem on 03-30-09
I’m a democrat, I love guns, and I love funding for education. If the schools are allowed to do their jobs with adequate funding, people have futures, and people with futures have a hard time wanting to shoot everyone else. Attacking guns for the criminals who use them is like wanting to ban cars to control speeding and drunk driving. Solve the problem not the manifestations.
Its alot easier to cry “gun control” than to actually solve the more complex issues that drive people to commit crimes with guns. You just can’t take away guns, period. No gun control
It’s a great day to be in Montana because all of our federal delegation stands up for this vital constitutional right.
By eye on the target on 03-30-09
I’m with the “Gun Loving Dem”
That said, I’m a Montanan that has lived in big cities. The issues they face in urban areas are very different than the issues we Montanans face here. There are some common sense gun regulations in place now, and some more that should be considered. There are also some regulations that have proven not to work and should be abandoned. The key is cutting out the fanatics.
Guns, yes. Gun violence, no. Smart, fair, strategies that protect our freedoms and our citizens are needed.
By Mark on 03-30-09
The rights of a few “gun totting [sic] people”? A few? Does the left ever come out with new talking points on this issue? If so they, firstly, need to teach you that toting only has two “t”‘s, not three, and, secondly, that gun ownership is not just limited to just a “few”. Tens of millions of Americans legally own guns, not a scattered “few”.
Also, there are already laws preventing people from murdering someone, obviously, as well as laws preventing the mentally unstable from owning guns. Making it harder for law-abiding citizens to own guns not only does not prevent criminals, who by definition break the law, from obtaining guns, it also is in violation of the Second Amendment of our Constitution, or were you in a cave when the Supreme Court issued its ruling in DC v. Heller? And mitch, it is not taking advantage of Second Amendment rights to murder someone, it is in violation of it, and every other one of the hundreds of gun laws already on the books. And frankly, the only people arguing this issue who “cheer” the murders of innocents are the anti-gun “geniuses” who shamelessly exploit every tragedy in an attempt to trample the Constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens . But that is par for the course because the anti-gun crowd always repeats the same things, ad nauseum, when they “have nothing intelligent to say”.
And it is usually considered hypocritical (because it is) to decry loudmouth namecallers, and then turn right around and call people with whom you disagree “wingnuts”. And since when did Baucus, Tester, and the rest of the Democrats opposed to new violations of the Second Amendment become wingnuts? I guess everyone who disagrees with the brilliant genius that is you is a wingnut, right?