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By bethievando on 02-11-13 @ 4:51 pm
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I’m sorry I was thinking faster then my fingers could type. It’s supposed to be, Every felon
that has murdered, and should NOT be allowed TV they should be allowed books. Sorry again for my
spelling errors.
By bethievando on 02-11-13 @ 4:39 pm
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I believe that in some cases corporel punishment could work. Most children that are given
spankings (not abused) but real spankings grow up knowing that for ever bad action there is a
consequense. Though honestly if we are talking about doing something like this to help with
budgets. Every felon convicted for life without parol should be given the option of death. Ever
felon that has murdered a person in cold blood should be killed, eye for an eye. Other prisoners
serving out sentances should be put to work helping the state, building walls, roads, doing
things for retribution not sitting around watching TV. In fact they should be allowed TV they
should be allowed books. Education is the key to not having repeat offenders along with teaching
them good honest labor. If they learn how to lay concrete in prison, with experience that could
allow them to get a job when they get out of prison. Another option is serving in our armed
forces for room and board no pay until thier sentence is up. They can opt for this, and if they
try to defect they get shot.

We as a people have become to complacent and we have allowed extreamists to come in and say that
is not humane. Well guess what… no it’s not. When you decide to comitt a crime, you give up
your rights, all of them and that is how they should be treated. Not coddled or a slap on the
wrist… we need to man up as a country and set a standard. No other country is as easy on its
criminal and illegal aliens as we are.
By Mark W. on 02-02-13 @ 6:01 pm
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Read the comments, Fast.  I’m not the one that needs my nose wiped.
By Fast on 02-02-13 @ 5:38 pm
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DID SOMEONE NOT GET ENGHT OF MOMMY’s ATTENTION WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE OR MAYBE
TO MUCH. HEY WOULD SOMEONE WHO VOTE FOR THIS GUY GO STROKE HIM AND WIPE HIS NOSE.
HE HE
By Mark W. on 02-02-13 @ 6:31 am
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Couldn’t be happier that Columbia Falls continues to elect someone willing to push the envelope. 
Don’t want to live in Whitefish, don’t want a Whitefish leader.  Rock on, Columbia Falls.
By JosephineDoody on 02-02-13 @ 6:16 am
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O’Neil - Stop wasting our time with this hogwash. Either do the work of the people down there in
Helena or do us all a favor and come home.

Good grief!
By Tox on 02-02-13 @ 1:44 am
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Columbia Falls is an embarrassment to the entire Flathead for electing this throwback!
By Mark W. on 02-01-13 @ 6:36 pm
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If Progressives hadn’t spent the last 50 years separating citizens from responsibilities in order to
leverage the resulting gap into a monstrous voting block of government workers (prison guards in
this case), welfare beneficiaries, and classes of people fighting for victim status, we might not have
such a huge prison population. 

I understand why Progressives don’t like this solution—it reeks too much of redemption.  If a guy,
by his own choice, can take 20 lashes for fraud and spend a couple days in the hospital and be
done with it, he can’t be taught the proper language of victimhood in prison.  This kind of
acceptance of personal responsibility is grossly at odds with the purpose of corporal punishment in
the Progressive world—avoiding responsibility.  The the Progressive RIte of Abortion. 

If the Progressive revolution had taken some other route than trying to redeem the common man by
separating “sovereign” from its partner “responsibility,” we might be looking at a different world
today. 

It’s never too late to start.
By reggie on 02-01-13 @ 12:56 pm
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Although this proposal is absurd, there is a hugh and growing problem with the number of
prisoners in the U.S. We, as a country (not as partisans) must adopt some measures to reduce
prison populations. By holding 25% of the world’s prisoners in a country haveing 6% of the
worlds population (the highest on earth) we openly show our hypocricy and offer propaganda
opportunites to our countries enemies.

The right’s myth that private corporations are more efficient at EVERYTHING, and the reality of
high percentage prison populations consisting of mostly minorities who usually vote for Dems,
but lose voting rights for life with any felony conviction…and thus are a real benifit to Repubs;
are obsticles to reform. With these facts in mind, it is suprising that this proposal came from a
Repub legislator.

It has been reported that private prison corporations try for an 18% increase in return on
investment annually for stockholders. Thus the pressure to keep darconian drug laws and three
strikes life sentences, and longer sentences, and ignore the known public wishes on marijuana
(both medical and complete legalization)....and more.

This problem, like so many other problems the known majority of public want’s addressed is
stymied by the money spent on legislation/politicans by the rich and corporations. If the people
ever again become soveregin in the U.S. we will correct this injustice along with the many
others that the majority are now ignored on.

Unless we can reverse the current rigged system, and political solutions continue to be
impossable, this will require revolution, a retaking of our nation and reinstalling “of by and for
the people”, (not of by and for money) as doctrine.
By montanaeasy56 on 02-01-13 @ 7:08 am
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I guess, under this idiot’s suggestion, if a person was convicted of sexual assault, the Judge
would lean over and say, “baliff, whack his pee pee!”
By accutrax on 01-31-13 @ 8:08 pm
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No pain, no gain. Its pain to see. It really pains me. No pain, no brain. smile)
Interesting idea.
By Red Green on 01-31-13 @ 12:20 pm
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How incredibly disheartening and depressing that we have an individual that will proffer
such a measure.  How on earth does this kind of deluded mind manage to get elected?? 
Why does the legislative body allow such stupidity to bring discredit onto the system and
the members.  My gawd, the future is frightening with a nut-job like this in such high
position.  Let’s give Jerry a case of scotch and a free ride with Barcus on his boat.
By mooseberryinn on 01-31-13 @ 11:29 am
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Well, I certainly hope Jerry is being facetious, although, such an idea may save a few bucks?  Or
maybe he’s tossing this idea in as an “Al Franken” contest entry. yeah, that must be it.
By waterman on 01-31-13 @ 11:06 am
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J. O’Neil is such an embarassment to the GOP.
I think Blasdel stated it best.  “It’s a citizen legislature and folks get to carry the bills they like on
their own.” Best you can do is distance yourself from a nut case.
Seems that O’Neil forgot one part of the puzzle. The whole idea of long prison sentences is to
keep people out of society to start with. Lets see, a child raper takes the 20 lashes and can
continue his sick and demented activites.
By ride4fun on 01-31-13 @ 10:19 am
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I’ve lived in Montana for 2 1/2 years, and every year I look forward to the wacky, crazy,
idiotic bills that show up in our Legislature.  Jerry has not disappointed…..cannot believe
the citizens of Columbia Falls want this crazy person to represent them. If you are a
Republican, surely you can find a better candidate.
By TallTree on 01-30-13 @ 8:32 pm
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Not only has Republican Rep. Jerry O’Neil been voted into office, he has been re-elected.  Some
people commenting on other recent Beacon articles have made the point that legislators are just
representing their constituents in their district and are not just coming up with crazy ideas
out of left field.  If so, what’s up with Columbia Falls?!  Apparently they want to be paid in
gold or silver and are into pain?  Fifty Shades of Grey must be popular there.
By Wood is good on 01-30-13 @ 8:16 pm
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Jerry O’Neil is such an embarrassment. What scares me is knowing people in my community
voted him into office. Hope you are paying attention Columbia Falls. This guy is part of the
problem. We need legislators who actualy do real work in Helena, not this joker.
By Mark W. on 01-30-13 @ 8:09 pm
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STOP THE PRESSES!  Has Mr. O’Neill inadvertently discovered the ever-elusive Progressive
baseline of acceptable behavior between consenting adults?
By Gabby Johnson on 01-30-13 @ 6:51 pm
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So the GOP is reaching out to the S&M crowd to fill up that big tent?
Arrest me, whip me, beat me, make me write bad checks.
By Kokanee on 01-30-13 @ 4:06 pm
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The following annual figures estimating the various costs of crime in the mid-1990s come from
the National Institute of Justice and a study by David A. Anderson called “The Aggregate Burden
of Crime.” The study was published in the October 1999 issue of the Journal of Law and
Economics. Crime costs are based on approximately 49 million annual crimes and attempted crimes
in the United States.

$105 billion each year in medical bills and lost earnings; $450 billion when including pain and
suffering and lost quality of life

$400 billion to operate corrections facilities

$130 billion for crime prevention and loss of potential productivity of criminals and inmates

$1 trillion when including the cost of the criminal justice systems, as well as private
individuals and companies taking security measures

$426 billion of the $450 billion is related to violent crime, the remaining $24 billion to
property crime

$4,118 is the annual cost of crime to each U.S. citizen

$603 billion lost to the economy from fraud and unpaid taxes

$500 million of money or valuables taken in robberies

$15 billion in property stolen

$127 billion from rape offenses; assault $93 billion, murder $61 billion, and child abuse $56
billion

$45 billion paid by insurance programs to crime victims

$8 billion paid to victims by U.S. government annually for restorative and emergency services

3 percent of all medical expenses in the nation is related to violent crimes

1 percent of annual U.S. earnings is equal to wage losses from violent crime

10 to 20 percent of mental healthcare costs are attributed to crime

$54,000 is the average cost of each arson incident; $31,000 for each assault

$25,000 to $30,000 is the annual cost of an inmate in prison

4 out of 5 gunshot victims end up on public assistance and uninsured, costing the government
$4.5 billion annually

Read more: Economic and Social Effects of Crime - The High Cost Of Crime - Billion, Annual,
Percent, and Victims - JRank Articles
http://law.jrank.org/pages/12119/Economic-Social-Effects-Crime-High-Cost-Crime.html#ixzz2JVELRc6B

Granted these are not current figures,but we have to do something I do not agree with the
corporal punishment idea(well it has crossed my mind) I just want somebody to think out of the
box to fix some of these figures. The great three strikes and your in for life does not seem to
have detered many repeat offenders.
By hotfishmt on 01-30-13 @ 3:45 pm
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A sligthly better idea would be a public stage/platform where the offenders would have to stand
an say their name & what bad deeds they did….an let JQ Public see them shamed in public &
see their faces. Least it way better than “flogging”.
By dsrobins on 01-30-13 @ 3:39 pm
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Jerry O’Neil is an embarrassment even to Republicans with proposals like this.  Will he bring
back the rack and the iron maiden from the Middle Ages?  Get real, Jerry.
 
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