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First Sierra Club leader in the group's 120-year history to be arrested in an act of civil disobedience
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By mooseberryinn on 02-19-13 @ 9:39 pm
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Generally, what is NOT mentioned in the battle for energy is the secondary effects on food production. 
Getting food to market has got to be considered a primary goal.  Getting food to poorer nations must be
considered as a primary goal.  Crippling that effort by insisting only ‘green” energy is good energy will
push still more of the world (and the U.S.) toward violence, war, and starvation.
By Craig moore on 02-19-13 @ 8:58 pm
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Previous comment was a test. Having trouble.  Here is the real comment.


A New York Times editorialist takes a dim view of the protest goals.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/opinion/nocera-how-not-to-fix-climate-change.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2&

===quote===
After much back and forth, James E. Hansen and I had agreed on a date to meet. Hansen, the
director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, is the scientist most closely associated
with climate change activists like Bill McKibben, who has led the charge against the Keystone XL
pipeline, and Michael Brune, the executive director of the Sierra Club. In Hansen’s view, the
country needs to start moving away from fossil fuels now, before the damage becomes irreversible.

...the climate change effects of tar sands oil are, all in all, pretty small. I had the strong
sense that Hansen hoped that once we met, I would begin to see the error of my ways.

...Hansen wrote in an e-mail. (He added, “Yes, I know, the merits of this continuing activity
may be dubious, but Bill is working his butt off so hard that I can’t refuse.”) I postponed the
meeting.

...TransCanada, the company hoping to build it, rerouted portions of it to avoid sensitive lands
and aquifers. Canada, still miffed by Obama’s rejection of the pipeline last year, is
threatening to sell the oil to China if the United States says no again.

In fact, this should be a no-brainer for the president, for all the reasons I stated earlier,
and one more: the strategy of activists like McKibben, Brune and Hansen, who have made the
Keystone pipeline their line in the sand, is utterly boneheaded…

If the president blocks Keystone, and the First Nation tribes continue their staunch opposition
to the western pipeline, then Canada will have the second largest oil reserves in the world —
and no place to sell it. The assumption of the activists is that by choking off the supply of
new oil sources like the tar sands, the U.S. — and maybe the world — will be forced to
transition more quickly to green energy.

Can you see how backward this logic is? As Adam Brandt, an energy expert at Stanford University,
pointed out to me recently, so long as the demand is there, energy producers are going to search
for new supplies of fossil fuel — many of them using unconventional means like tar sands
extraction. “With growing global demand, the economic pressure to develop unconventional
resources is enormous and not going away,” he said. “Can environmental groups expect to win a
series of fights for decades to come, when the economic forces are aligned very strongly against
them in each round?” The answer is obvious: no.
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By Craig moore on 02-19-13 @ 8:57 pm
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http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/comments/sierra_club_chief_arrested_at_white_house_protesting_xl_pipeline
By mooseberryinn on 02-16-13 @ 9:47 pm
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The Sierra club folks will have to get in line with the ‘let’s all poop in the park’ OWS folks. 
Did ya notice the parade of luxury cars used by the NAACP, Sierra club and others?  If they were really
to be believed, they would have used bicycles.
How exactly do higher gas prices help the working middle class?
By Becket on 02-16-13 @ 2:12 pm
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Americans have a history of Civil Disobedience yea!
By mooseberryinn on 02-15-13 @ 9:42 pm
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One might notice the “leaders” of the “club” do not lack for creature comforts.  kinda like the “guru of
warm” Mr. Al Gore, hasn’t made a move to return his mansions to the earth, and live in a yurt.  Could
be a lack of sincerity there?
By Kokanee on 02-15-13 @ 12:39 pm
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In 2011 the Sierra club took in 78 million dollars. As much as they cry and whine about big oil
you would think they would have a think tank of experts to reduce our need for such. Leaders
lead and followers I guess just give money to say they have saved us from ourselves
By mooseberryinn on 02-15-13 @ 10:50 am
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Wow - the “regime propaganda” abounds.  It seems King Obama’s goal is to cripple our economy
via higher and higher fuel prices, which as we all know leads to higher food prices, etc. etc. is
crushing economic recovery.  Well, so far, King Obama is proceeding nicely with “transformation”. 
Well, what the heck, let’s just stop all gasoline production, drive the cost so high only the rich can
drive, (oh wait, there won’t be any “rich”), drive food transport costs up, grocery prices up, increase
food stamp recipients, and ...tah dah….buy a Chevy volt.  what no money? pay for the Chevy with
your food stamps.  Plug it in from your neighbor’s garage to save a bit more.  Hey, this is only a part
of Chairman Obama’s “trickle-up”, backwards, upside-down Marxist transformation.  relax, get used
to it, waiting in lines for food, bread, clothes etc. will become an opportunity for socializing.  Ask
any former escapee from the GDR or USSR about the “benefits”.
By Gabby Johnson on 02-15-13 @ 8:15 am
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Funny how all these so-called “patriots” have become Red China’s best friend.
China provided most of the capital to develop the Alberta tar sands, and they sure as shootin’
will want the gasoline and diesel after that crude is run through the Texas refineries. Anyone
who can read a map can see that.
Funny also how Red China now has gained eminent domain powers inside the U.S., thanks to the GOP
and the Koch brothers.
By JosephineDoody on 02-14-13 @ 5:12 pm
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Brunowolf,

People who think like you ARE the ruination of this country’s environment. The XL Pipeline is just
one of the BEST things that could happen for job opportunities in the US. If BHO truly cared (or
understood) about the US economy and unemployment situation, he’d be pushing this through on
the fast track.

This is what you get when you have someone living in the White House who’s only skill
is “community organizing.”
By BRUNOWOLF on 02-14-13 @ 12:45 pm
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Russ, people who think like you will be the ruination of this contry’s environment. Congratulations
to RFK, Darrel Hanna and others who see that the pipeline is a very bad choice for the USA. There
will be limited benefits and greater detriment if this plan goes through.Stop supporting the greedy
oil moguls. Their promises of high employment is a crock.
By RussCrowder on 02-13-13 @ 4:42 pm
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The Sierra Club is the same green “Smart Growth” wacko bunch that has come out against single-
family home ownership because it is a “waste of valuable space and natural resources”.  My only
question would be why would these green crazy’s have to tie themselves to the White House gate? 
Given the present occupants of the property, I would think that all they would have to do is ring the
door bell and they would be invited in for tofu cakes and green tea.
 
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